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Why not just put him on the ballot?

Hungarian Viktor Orban's tenure has seen Hungary government shift towards what he has called "illiberal democracy" — citing countries such as China, Russia, India, Singapore, and Turkey as models of governance— while simultaneously promoting anti-Americanism, Euroscepticism, and opposition to Western democracy.

Because of Orbán's curtailing of press freedom, erosion of judicial independence and undermining of multiparty democracy, Hungary has experienced democratic backsliding during his tenure. Orbán's attacks on the European Union while accepting its money and funneling it to his allies and family have also led to characterizations of his government as a kleptocracy.
Between 2010 and 2020, Hungary dropped 69 places in the Press Freedom Index and 11 places in the Democracy Index. Freedom House has downgraded the country from "free" to "partly free."

Orbán defends his policies as "illiberal democracy." In a July 2022 speech, Orban criticized the “mixing” of European and non-European races, saying "We [Hungarians] are not a mixed race and we do not want to become a mixed race".

This is the man CPAC attendees cheered as a speaker in Texas, most of them not likely even understanding who they were listening to. A speaking guest of the Republican Party of the USA.

Speaking in Dallas on Thursday, Mr Orban did not directly address that furor surrounding him but said: "A Christian politician cannot be racist." The Hungarian premier also said those who consider him a racist or anti-Semite are "simply idiots". "I can already see tomorrow's headlines," he said. "Far-right European racist and anti-Semite strongman, Trojan horse of Putin, holds speech at conservative conference. "But I don't want to give them any ideas, they know best how to write fake news."

Sound familiar?
helenS · 36-40, F
Thousands and thousands of young Hungarians leave their country. They feel suffocated by "illiberal democracy". Orban's kleptocracy will soon become a gerontocracy.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@helenS That won't last...
helenS · 36-40, F
@LordShadowfire What won't last, please?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@helenS If the country is populated by only old people, they'll all die soon.
If one understands the Republican shift in America from the party they were just 10 years ago to today........it is almost a mirror image now in America......of the teachings of Viktor Orban. The complete vilification of George Soros for instance. In Hungary anything that is associated with "liberal arts" or "liberal thinking" subjects in state run universities is associated with George Soros (because he gave the funding to build those colleges) and is therefore evil....and now out of a knee jerk reaction to Soros...banned for subjects taught.
@helenS George Soros fear in Hungary is the basis for the stupid idea behind "replacement theory" here. According to Orban........Soros is so rich he wants to pay enough immigrants to come into Hungary to take over and crowd out all of the native Hungarians. In the U.S. that is spun a little. Here the Democrats want to to that to American with Mexicans. Same stupidity.....just a change of villiians.
helenS · 36-40, F
@anythingoes477 Fascism isn't dead, it just changed its outward appearance.
@helenS Just like Halloween. In one country it is Orban's face..........here the face mask is Orange. But the principle is the same..........someone must be blamed for the problems in that country. Here its the Jews.........or the Mexicans..or the Muslims.......or the Democrats. in Hungary it's George Soros and the Jews..........because Soros is a Jew. Every fascist needs a symbol of hate to unite and unify the hate in those that are gullible enough to buy into that nonsense. Once a Fascist has found that cult of those that hate who he says he hates............then a "movement" is created that always takes a nation downhill into authoritarian rule. That is when truly the gullible are right when they say "the guvmint is takin' ma rites". When a fascist takes over a country.........that is exactly what happens. The stupid just don't believe that....until it's too late
The one problem I have about many democracies is how fascist elements build up in the population until they take over.
Can't do that with say China as its already authoritarian. Democracy just seems to grant a brief respite until the human trash builds up.
A benevolent dictatorship could be a good thing. But the problem is a benevolent dictator will eventually die and an malevolent dictator ALWAYS arises.
So baring immortality the next most reasonable concept would probably be a technocracy with a sentient AI.


Just some brain farts of mine.
MarthaT · 90-99, M
@MarthaT I always thought Singapour was démocratique like Japan
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
I was in Budapest in 2019. Lovely city .
Northwest · M
I am still in disbelief that mother fucker was invited to keynote the CPAC meeting in Texas, but then again, I am starting to wonder why attendees showed up in suits, instead of the usual white robes.
SW-User
I bet the GQP could produce a birth certificate showing Orban was born in Texas ... while still insisting Obama was born in Kenya
MarthaT · 90-99, M
@SW-User Which Orban? The Optimod 8200?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
And no true Scotsman puts jam in his porridge.
helenS · 36-40, F
@LordShadowfire Is Scottish porridge the same as oatmeal??

 
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