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AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
He was the black sheep of a prominent family close to the royals .
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@AthrillatheHunt that he was.
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SomeMichGuy · M
meJess · F
Doesn’t excuse what he did however:
Bin Laden offered 200,000 fighting men to the leaders of Saudi Arabia when Sadam Hussein invaded Kuwait, to protect the kingdom.
Saudi did not want foreign troops on their soil but were given misleading information by the US regarding Iraq’ s intention. This culminated in Saudi refusing Bin Laden and allowing the US to use their country as a staging post to remove Iraq from Kuwait, which in turn created Al Qaeda.
The ruling brothers in Kuwait are not exactly liberal and open minded!
If fracking had been in operation in the US on a suitable scale back then, the US would probably have ignored Kuwait just as they did with Croatia.
Bin Laden offered 200,000 fighting men to the leaders of Saudi Arabia when Sadam Hussein invaded Kuwait, to protect the kingdom.
Saudi did not want foreign troops on their soil but were given misleading information by the US regarding Iraq’ s intention. This culminated in Saudi refusing Bin Laden and allowing the US to use their country as a staging post to remove Iraq from Kuwait, which in turn created Al Qaeda.
The ruling brothers in Kuwait are not exactly liberal and open minded!
If fracking had been in operation in the US on a suitable scale back then, the US would probably have ignored Kuwait just as they did with Croatia.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@meJess
Wait wait wait how and when did I excuse what he did ?😂 what he did was evil and he was a terrorist.
However
My post was explaining how his actions were NOT tied to the Saudi government nor backed by the Saudi people and society.
And that he was stripped of his Saudi nationality and was a wanted terrorist by the Saudi government even before 9/11.
If he was supported by Saudi government as you claim he would not have escaped Saudi Arabia and hid in Afghanistan before 9/11 even happened.
Bin laden himself caused many crimes within Saudi and was wanted by Saudi authorities long before 9/11
The first ppl who viewed him as a terrorist were not the Americans , but the Saudis.
Wait wait wait how and when did I excuse what he did ?😂 what he did was evil and he was a terrorist.
However
My post was explaining how his actions were NOT tied to the Saudi government nor backed by the Saudi people and society.
And that he was stripped of his Saudi nationality and was a wanted terrorist by the Saudi government even before 9/11.
If he was supported by Saudi government as you claim he would not have escaped Saudi Arabia and hid in Afghanistan before 9/11 even happened.
Bin laden himself caused many crimes within Saudi and was wanted by Saudi authorities long before 9/11
The first ppl who viewed him as a terrorist were not the Americans , but the Saudis.
SomeMichGuy · M
@meJess That's a very simplistic & wrong explanation.
You should read the report of the 9/11 Commission.
Even without oil, all the seeds of malcontent Yemenis, etc., were sown and America, as the leader of the West, and a fat, rich country, was a good target and the enemy of those malcontents. (Young people given a taste of a different life & different dreams, hopes, aspirations, while in college in the West, who went home to the reality of very closed-minded, straight-jacketed existences, without access to the means to achieve the dreams they had been sold on, in the West.)
You should read the report of the 9/11 Commission.
Even without oil, all the seeds of malcontent Yemenis, etc., were sown and America, as the leader of the West, and a fat, rich country, was a good target and the enemy of those malcontents. (Young people given a taste of a different life & different dreams, hopes, aspirations, while in college in the West, who went home to the reality of very closed-minded, straight-jacketed existences, without access to the means to achieve the dreams they had been sold on, in the West.)
beckyromero · 36-40, F
The Biden administration has declassified a 16-page FBI report tying 9/11 hijackers to Saudi nationals living in the United States. The document, written in 2016, summarized an FBI investigation into those ties called Operation ENCORE.
The partially redacted report shows a closer relationship than had been previously known between two Saudis in particular — including one with diplomatic status — and some of the hijackers. Families of the 9/11 victims have long sought after the report, which painted a starkly different portrait than the one described by the 9/11 Commission Report in 2004.
While the commission was largely unable to tie the Saudi men to the hijackers, the FBI document describes multiple connections and phone calls.
Years ago, the commission wrote that when it came to the Saudi diplomat Fahad al-Thumairy, "We have not found evidence that Thumairy provided assistance to the two hijackers." A decade later, it appears FBI agents came to a different conclusion. The report says Thumairy "tasked" an associate to help the hijackers when they arrived in Los Angeles and told the associate the hijackers were "two very significant people" more than a year before the attacks.
The partially redacted report shows a closer relationship than had been previously known between two Saudis in particular — including one with diplomatic status — and some of the hijackers. Families of the 9/11 victims have long sought after the report, which painted a starkly different portrait than the one described by the 9/11 Commission Report in 2004.
While the commission was largely unable to tie the Saudi men to the hijackers, the FBI document describes multiple connections and phone calls.
Years ago, the commission wrote that when it came to the Saudi diplomat Fahad al-Thumairy, "We have not found evidence that Thumairy provided assistance to the two hijackers." A decade later, it appears FBI agents came to a different conclusion. The report says Thumairy "tasked" an associate to help the hijackers when they arrived in Los Angeles and told the associate the hijackers were "two very significant people" more than a year before the attacks.
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/12/1036389448/biden-declassifies-secret-fbi-report-detailing-saudi-nationals-connections-to-9-
A newly declassified and heavily redacted FBI memo from 2017 stated, "In the late 1990s and up to September 11, 2001, Omar al-Bayoumi was paid a monthly stipend as a cooptee of the Saudi General Intelligence Presidency (GIP) via then Ambassador Prince Bandar bin Sultan…."
The memo continued, "Allegations of al-Bayoumi's involvement with Saudi Intelligence were not confirmed at the time of the 9/11 Commission Report. The above information confirms these allegations."
Another recently declassified FBI memo from the same year, citing source reporting, said, "There is a 50/50 chance Omar al-Bayoumi had advanced knowledge the 9/11 terrorist attacks were to occur."
The declassified records pertain to a long-secret investigation, code named "Operation Encore," which centered on the two hijackers who lived in San Diego and who may have assisted them.
The memo continued, "Allegations of al-Bayoumi's involvement with Saudi Intelligence were not confirmed at the time of the 9/11 Commission Report. The above information confirms these allegations."
Another recently declassified FBI memo from the same year, citing source reporting, said, "There is a 50/50 chance Omar al-Bayoumi had advanced knowledge the 9/11 terrorist attacks were to occur."
The declassified records pertain to a long-secret investigation, code named "Operation Encore," which centered on the two hijackers who lived in San Diego and who may have assisted them.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/911-hijackers-video-saudi-intelligence-official-omar-al-bayoumi/
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
20 years late innit.
like a group of ppl wanna waste time on fruitless virtue signaling instead of reporting whats important...
like a group of ppl wanna waste time on fruitless virtue signaling instead of reporting whats important...
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout
“ 20 years late innit.”
I do believe it is ridiculous how much 9/11 is brought up for various propagandas
And nothing about the 2 million Iraqi civilians that died including children and women in the hands of America for no reason whatsoever.
My post was just explaining how bin laden acted alone along with his followers and was not supported by Saudi or its people as some haters claim until today.
“ 20 years late innit.”
I do believe it is ridiculous how much 9/11 is brought up for various propagandas
And nothing about the 2 million Iraqi civilians that died including children and women in the hands of America for no reason whatsoever.
My post was just explaining how bin laden acted alone along with his followers and was not supported by Saudi or its people as some haters claim until today.
InHeaven · F
Omg wake up and stop swallowing what “news” feeds you, like a baby
InHeaven · F
Bullshit. 99/11 inside job. Bush