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Lyin' Liz Appears on Fox With Bret Baier and Spews More BS

Liz Cheney is flat out misleading the public. Listen very carefully to the words she uses in reference to Chris Miller's testimony. Then listen to what Chris Miller had to say on the matter back in June, when on Hannity. Anyone who has followed this story closely knows Trump pre-authorized up to 20,000 National Guard troops on Jan 4th, and Miller testified to that fact. The Speaker of the House (Nancy Pelosi) and DC Mayor (Muriel Bowser) have to request the troops in order for them to be deployed. They never did. The POTUS does not simply issue the order to deploy the Guard.

Kash Patel has reached out to Fox and Bret Baier to set the record straight. They have not responded to Patel.

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PTCdresser57 · 61-69, M
The problem I see is in the Media Miller said Trump authorized troops but under oath he testified no order was given from Trump. So which is it? What he said in the media carries no "perjury" penalty but under oath it does carry a perjury penalty.
@PTCdresser57 I agree, that that's A problem here, but the bigger problem, imo, is that lying or contradicting oneself if you can get away with it is acceptable and even to be admired.

In Miller's defense, I don't think we're getting the whole story, and his actual testimony was probably a lot more consistent then it's being presented, probably with quibbling about "orders" and Trump's obtuse "management style" though.
@PTCdresser57 @MistyCee
The president cannot order the National Guard in this situation without violating the Posse Comitatus Act. Had Trump done that...then J6 would have been a legitimate argument of a coup. The president can, however, authorize the deployment of the NG if requested.

Here is the text of the testimony from when Cheney questioned Miller.

Cheney:
"To be crystal clear, there was no direct order from president Trump to put 10,000 troops to be on the ready for January 6th, correct?"

Miller:
"No. Yeah. That's correct. There was no direct--there was no order from the president."

So...it is correct that Trump gave no order to deploy the NG. It is also correct that Trump pre-authorized it. It's not a mutually exclusive scenario, and it's why I mentioned listen carefully at the beginning of the post. And we know the NG was not deployed because Pelosi and Bowser didn't request it.

So, there is a fair amount to unpack here. Why didn't Pelosi and Bowser request the additional security? Did Cheney appear on Fox with Bret Baier to give the impression that Trump should have done something to enhance security, but didn't? (Because that's how it appears on the surface). Or...did Cheney just undermine the J6 committee by admitting Trump did not cause an insurrection?
@BizSuitStacy Nice analysis and I get your posse comitatus point, but I'm not clear that "no order for 10,000 troops to be on the ready" means that they were pre-authorized but not deployed.
@MistyCee
I'm not clear that "no order for 10,000 troops to be on the ready" means that they were pre-authorized but not deployed.

It doesn't. They are two separate things.
@BizSuitStacy Sorry. Clearly it's not deployment. But what does pre-authorized mean?

Liz seems to have been jumping on that and overreaching
@MistyCee It means that Trump approved their deployment in advance. The Speaker and mayor still had to make the request.

Why authorize in advance? Think of the logistics of getting 10,000-20,000 NG troops into DC. These people have other jobs, have to travel, etc. so it's not like they can be requested and be available in an hour. They seemed to know of some threat...and wanted to address the threat as quickly as possible.
@BizSuitStacy So Trump can preauthorize without issuing "an order to get ready?"

How are these 10k or 20k folks going to know to get ready without an order?
@MistyCee Do you understand the difference between issuing an order and an authorizating a request? Or are we going to continue in circles here?
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