And this is where the Dems trip up

Some democrats are calling on Congress for clarification that conservative Supreme Court justices mislead the public when they said they didn't plan to touch Roe v. Wade. They want censure or penalty of some kind.

And this is where we as a party utterly, spectacularly lose the plot. "I promise; I'll pull out; I'm not planning on children; I plan to live in Ohio all my life; the check is in the mail." These are all lies we tell. When you ask someone to make a promise of the future on shifting sand, you cannot trust the response; it's not even fair. Of course they said what they had to to get the job. Who here hasn't?

Conservatives are the party of hypocrites. They lie, they're transparent about it, they're contradictory and not to be trusted. They don't care. They are not going to be shamed. They are not going to see the error of their ways because we pointed it out to them. Surely there are bigger issues at hand.

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MarineBob · 56-60, M

Ashame. Congress doesn't want to touch it either.
Supreme court actually did what joe biden said should be done and give it to the states where it belongs

Graylight · 51-55, F

@MarineBob It doesn't belong anywhere, Bob. It's women's bodies, not an HOA discussion topic.

MarineBob · 56-60, M

@Graylight seems every time a provider doesn't get his way they run to the court. congress doesn't even want to address the issue

Graylight · 51-55, F

@MarineBob Again, Bob, this doesn't belong in the courts. Women have already been granted equal rights under the US Constitution. The matter was settled 250 years ago.

This is about suppression through exclusion. I honestly would think you'd understand that, given your avatar.

MarineBob · 56-60, M

@Graylight honestly I agree with you but the taxpayers shouldn't have to foot the bill, in cases of rape and incest the prosecutors should fully prosecute the cases and law enforcement isn't to close a case until it's been settled and signed off on by a judge

Graylight · 51-55, F

@MarineBob Taxpayers foot the bill for the entire country, Bob. It's how we run; it's our coffers. We trade and do global business, but tax money is the flour and water of our constitution. It's used right now every day for prosecution and justice. But if we're talking about taxpayer dollars, let's look at the millions spent on phone court cases for election fraud, or the monies used to investigate Trump's business dealings and international shenanigans. Or how bout the nearly $3 billion the Jan 6 panel is projected to cost? How about taxpayer funded carriers and fighter jets sitting in desert overflow compounds because a local politician promised fools' gold?

Taxpayers make this country run and whether or not someone like the principle for which they're being used is not a deciding factor. We get authoritarian regimes like that, and if you want to see that happening in real time, take a jaunt down to TX or FL.