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I believe Saudi Arabia is now undergoing one of the world’s largest and most peaceful revolutions ever known in history

and [b]no one[/b] from the outside is paying close attention.


Within only [b]five[/b] years, Saudi Arabia went from a closed country, with limited human rights, full dependence on oil revenues, no tourism, and pay inequality to having implemented one of the world’s largest economic and social reforms, without any resistance or bloodshed. Here are some of the major reforms:

1/A series of human rights reforms were implemented (enforced equal pay, ban on women’s driving was lifted, male guardianship system was abolished, flogging as a form of punishment was abolished etc…..)

2/Women were given their full legal rights, including abolishing the requirement to wear Hijab or Abaya.
3/
Adopted a zero-tolerance policy towards radicalism and has completely curbed the power of religious police.
4/
Foreign tourism and investment were allowed for the first time. The country targets 100 million visitors a year by 2030 (you can easily get a visa now using your phone )
5/
Imposed a 50% local content requirement for all government contracts to boost the local manufacturing industry.
6/
Increased non-oil revenues by 47% and focused on untapped mineral wealth and local and international investments.
7/
Reopened cinemas and allowed concerts and international entertainment events to be held after being banned for 30 years. (Some of the biggest events happened in Saudi Arabia in the past few years )
8/
A nationwide campaign to crack down on corruption resulted in retrieving more than $100 billion.
9/
Promoted tolerance and interfaith dialogue.

10/ launched some of the most efficient digital platforms that received global rewards especially during covid and in the education sector.


And far far more so as a citizen I am impressed.

Link for 2030 Saudi vision :

https://www.vision2030.gov.sa/
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
So, how are things with Yemen?
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@CountScrofula
You don’t touch a nerve when you have a diff opinion on Saudi
I couldn’t care less
But my nerve is touched when ppl deliberately go off topic
@CountScrofula
[quote] So, how are things with Yemen?[/quote]
oh, is this BMC? 🤔😭😭
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@TurtleEclipseOfTheHeart I am being interviewed on a diff topic lmaooo
I think bbc got the wrong person
BlueVeins · 22-25
Not sure I'd take a Saudi state website as a source, buuut they have done some cool stuff regarding women's rights. Not sure I'd call it a revolution, considering that it's being done incrementally by the same political elite which established all these tyrannical laws in the first place.

That's not to bash moderate reform them; any change to decrease cruelty to women, the proletariat, & religious minorities is good on balance. Any idea why all this is happening though? My gut reaction is that these reforms are being done to avoid the ire of domestic & foreign humanitarians, but there are obviously other rational reasons not to want to remain a theocratic hell.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@BlueVeins
While it’s a royal family
It’s also based supporr of tribal leaders and their opinions taken into consideration
Since the only reason royal family is in power is due to alliegnece from tribal leaders.

I am sorry ,
If not equally bad to me usa is worse
Especially if we consider the global damage it had inflicted even the basic history of how it became usa

But you have your opinion and I mine.

You choose what to compare about usa and Saudi
If we choose others aspects
Saudi actually is doing much better

You cherry pick
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Moon3624 [quote]While it’s a royal family
It’s also based supporr of tribal leaders and their opinions taken into consideration
Since the only reason royal family is in power is due to alliegnece from tribal leaders.[/quote]

kdfaj;sdfksdlfj this is some of the subbiest shit i've ever read. Who controls the military? Who appoints the Minister of Media?

[quote]If not equally bad to me usa is worse
Especially if we consider the global damage it had inflicted even the basic history of how it became usa[/quote]

Eh, the US government has done some insanely bad shit. The trans-Atlantic slave trade was pretty much peak evil and systemic oppression of black people is still really bad. In terms of foreign policy since then, it's been a deeply mixed bag. We had a puppet government in Iran, we've deeply involved ourselves in Latin America, we murdered hundreds of thousands in Iraq, and we killed millions fighting in South Indochina. Lotta that shit was downright evil. We're also a huge part of the reason why the fascists lost World War 2, why South Korea isn't a fascist hell today, why the RoC is independent of mainland China, and why Ukraine is able to put up a fight against the Russian Federation.

IDK, you won't hear me arguing that the US is good on foreign policy, we're not. But Saudi Arabia's foreign policy is similarly bad anyway, so the two are hardly differentiated in that sense.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@BlueVeins
After a long list of genocide and corruption which is not even half of what usa did /does you use
“We are also we are also “

which I can also use with Saudi .

So no , the corruption of usa is no where near Saudi. But you are free to have an opinion.
Again I couldn’t care less
It’s not like I’ll die bc u have a diff opinion lol
——
“ kdfaj;sdfksdlfj this is some of the subbiest shit i've ever read. “
I never denied that The royal family is in power
It’s a royal system after all
But the reason they are was due to arab tribes alliances and approval
Not eliminating natives to start a country.
And they still do have a voice and hold meetings for consulting.

Saudi is one of the most patriotic countries despite their royal system
Northwest · M
You seem to know a lot about Saudi Arabia. Can you please remind me of what happened during the Khashoggi torture/murder trilal?
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Northwest I am not gonna be lectured on human rights from someone from America

The Joke of the day
Northwest · M
@Moon3624 [quote] am not gonna be lectured on human rights from someone from America[/quote]

I feel shocked that people cannot stay on the topic of the post
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Northwest I am hence I am not receiving lectures on human rights and Saudi Arabia
from someone with an American flag in their profile pic

Your hatred is not worth my time or attention
Get ur racism somewhere else
SW-User
It doesn’t seem like many are interested in Saudi government propaganda. 😅 Tough break.

Yeah they’ve done some things right. They have a long, long ways to go.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@SW-User technically every government and country has propaganda

Every country has a long way to go
It’s about admitting faults and trying to Improve always
SW-User
والله كنفرح ملي كنشوف التطور في البلدان العربية 🙌🏽 ان شاء الله ديما نزيدو للقدام
SW-User
@Moon3624 مرحبا💜💜
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SW-User
@Northwest What's so funny?
كنت أود أن أشكرك و لكن
هل أنت صادق حقاً في تمنياتك؟ أشك في ذلك 😏
The detention and torture of Loujain al-Hathloul doesn’t reflect that peaceful revolution. She was just released from prison early last year. Has Saud al-Qahtani been held accountable for personally torturing her and threatening to rape her and dispose of her in the sewar?
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@CopperCicada
Everything she preached for eventually happened though.
But it doesn’t change the fact she went against the law
And also she protested and tried to initiate riots etc…
She was detained and let go warned and let go on several occasions
In Saudi even if you protest against Israel in support of Palestine you will get in trouble

Even if it was the opposite like if loujain was preaching anti women rights the same would have happened.
Like in our modern day a few men protested against women driving anf stirred hatred
and did the same thing loujsin did but in reverse they got in trouble with the police .

“ torturing her and threatening to rape her ”
is unreliable. And if happened doesn’t mean it’s the law of the country or the entire system
But might be corrupted individuals Who are in power
Unless you are saying rape offense lalala doesn’t happen in the prisons of USA or other countries



I do agree that there might have been individual and groups which opposed the reforms but in the big picture it has been supported and peaceful

And no one can deny the reforms that happened within only 5 years
YMITheWayIM · 46-50, M
That's great however wake me up when the companies there, start offering the same remuneration package to locals, westerners and asians 🕯️
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@YMITheWayIM
I am no expert in that field to answer that statement
But since you are hoping for the better
Then that’s good
YMITheWayIM · 46-50, M
@Moon3624 zZzZz
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
They killed a US journalist and are profiteering off the bloodshed in Ukraine by keeping oil prices artificially high by holding back production. They have a long way to go to get a pat on the back.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@JonLosAngeles66


Saudí could care less ab this pat from you
It will happily continue to change and improve
People like you wether Saudi change or doesn’t change will find a window to stab rather than acknowledge those changes


And it’s shocking to hear that from a person with a president who promised his people he will make saudi an outcast
yet then begging Saudi Arabia for oil once things got tough
And all the presidents before him were not much different.

As for the journalist who was killed
An investigation happened and no proof was found against the king and the crown Prince
It’s been years , get over it.

And the last thing I expect from an American is lecturing saudi on corruption and assassination
Abstraction · 61-69, M
This is great and long overdue. It takes a long time to change societies, but these are good steps. There will be many progressive people within the country who will approve.
What do you think is the reason behind these reforms?
Give it time before the world notices. Khasoggi was assassinated only 4 years ago.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@MistyCee
I already replied to the Khasoggi point below
try to find it
DownTheStreet · 51-55, M
Definitely a shift in the power structures there 5-7 years ago
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@DownTheStreet yeah many shifts
That’s very interesting.
SA’s women are gaining their rights,
while U.S. women are losing theirs.
The world is indeed turning. 😔
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@bijouxbroussard
Unfortunately,
Women have been fighting for their rights since the beginning of dawn in every corner of the world.
Technically not long ago literally less than 100 years American women couldn’t do lots of things.

In reality , women rights fluctuated throughout history depending on the leaders not the country or it’s people and the religion they adhere.

I hope you are doing well sweetheart

 
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