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Why I'm agnostic about Boris Johnson leaving.

He obviously deserved to go and I have multiple disagreements with his politics but whatever replaces him is going to be at least as bad for the British people.

The British people have realised that Johnson is corrupt, dishonest and self-centred. No shit. This was all public knowledge long before he became prime minister. It seems really weird to me that only now these character traits are something that rule him out of government. It's his lies about Christmas parties (breaking his own lockdown rules) and the lie about knowing a minister was accused of sexual assault that cost him. But why get angry about this? Why feel betrayed? I would be personally shocked if he didn't lie about these things. Of course, he thinks that the rules don't apply to him, he's Boris Johnson.

Much more consequential for the lives and livelihoods of British people are the lies about Covid and Brexit. Our government handled the pandemic much worse than most, only to be bailed out when a British company discovered the first good vaccine. There is not a single economist who denies that Brexit has not contributed massively to the cost of living crisis but plenty of politicians do, Johnson chief amongst them. Also factor in other borderline bullshit about 'levelling-up' and supporting the NHS etc. Any one of these things should be a bigger scandal than partygate.

The likelihood is, however, that whoever comes next will be worse (at least in some ways). Rishi Sunak is a fiscal austerian and deficit hawk. In plain English: This means that he will cut benefits and services, whilst keeping taxes high on ordinary people. Johnson - I guess to his credit - disagreed with Sunak over this. Almost all the other candidates are likewise to the right of Johnson on economic policy and will have economic recovery plans that place the burden on the poor and away from their affluent home-owner voting base as much as they possibly can.

This is the Conservative Party. Its the political vessel for the British establishment and it always will be. It's still the party that Thatcher made in her own image and their leading figures care much more about Ayn Rand than the working class red-wall voters who wanted to get Brexit done. The rich will be protected and the most unequal of Europe's major nations will become even more so.
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Yeah I mean I can't disagree with you on your key points although Brexiting I certainly can't blame the government for that one. I mean all the big boys in government at the time were all around Cameron, the BBC news were, jeezus they even got Obama over to threaten us with the you will basically go to the back of the queue if you leave the EU with the trading deals and of course Boris campaigned for us to Brexit but is that his fault really?

Like you rightly point out EVERYONE knew who Boris was, he already had a reputation for being a gaff prone buffoon so I hardly think we voted based on what Boris said when there was our own PM, the American president, all the EU's PMs, all the major business people on the planet were all on telly 24/7 all saying stay and hell once we'd voted to Brexit and Cameron resigned, Theresa May got in she called an election we could of then just voted to give either party power to actually do something about it but we didn't , we voted straight down the middle meaning the remainers and the hard Brexiters all then had enough power in both parties to stop the trade negotiations being past through parliament, also cost Theresa May her job, who to be honest if we'd all voted for her at the election given here some power to get things past though parliament (like we did with Boris once the deadline had past and it was too late) we'd of had a very soft Brexit basically duplicating the contracts and resigning them as Theresa May was a remainer that's all she wanted to do but for some reason 50% of the voting public didn't seem to think that she was the right person for the job so ....

So like I say you make good points but if your someone who is a life long 'red wall' voter who are you even talking about these days exactly it's not the 1970s? Jeezus considering they're all well educated career politicians on both sides these days you really think Oxford educated Starmer is any different to a fucking Tory politician? Our political parties have been more central for probably 25-30 years and the vast majority of us just vote for whichever party will do a better job over the next 4 years or whatever until the next election it's the reason why we don't have this left right swing like you get in America when Labour get back in which they will what do you think will change? Oh we will introduce 'gay marriage' no tories did that already, why? Because both parties are central it wouldm't matter which government was in power that would of got past and it won't matter which government is in the rich people won't pay more taxes because Labour have already tried 'super taxing' them before and it didn't end very well so other than a few pennies here and there it won't make much difference.

I hope you get what I'm trying to say here cause like saying red or blue that's like making voting a supporters club like a football team where you'll just support them whatever, even when they're utterly shiiiite, or when a party needs support to do something important and really it's that kind of irresponsible oldie worldy voting that's the real reason why Brexit was so bad. Nothing to do with any particular party.

You have a good day x
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