Do you think " progressive politics " have ever actually been progressive?

@Graylight most users here hate progress! Especially the progressive politics that might end poverty or the climate crisis. They're hateful conservatives, like the majority of users but not people, everywhere!

@Roundandroundwego True enough. They're often the actual disadvantaged, feeling inadequate to jump into affairs that take critical thought and education. They're anxious about trying new things and so cling to old ways. For all their shouting, they're little more than cornered animals trying to make themselves fierce as the fear for their lives.

The only reason not to want progress (the benefit is inherent in the word itself) is because it's feared.