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Do you think " progressive politics " have ever actually been progressive?

CountScrofula · 41-45, M
If you mean like, social justice causes, well yes. I suppose if you think granting basic rights to people is not a form of progression then okay I guess?
StormChaser800 · 41-45, M
@CountScrofula I'm not talking about the clearly good stuff. I'm referring to nonsense spouted as " progressive "
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@StormChaser800 Such as?
StormChaser800 · 41-45, M
@CountScrofula I'm sure you know.
StormChaser800 · 41-45, M
@TexChik At least someone giving a straight answer,
There's this one time I can think of.
Conservatives and their capitalist system actually disrupted democracy and threatened the ecosystem itself!
Don't say it isn't so,
You know the time is now!
@hippyjoe1955 I can buy-. Why don't you know what progress is and persue it? Instead of battling your country like a conservative?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Roundandroundwego What do you think is progress? Genuinely curious.
Vin53 · M
Cons are not commies, they are most certainly fascists.

@Roundandroundwego
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
"regressive" would be more appropriate. Leave it to so called progressives to take something that is benign/unimportant, politicize it, stir the pot, and have everyone at each others throats over it...
Graylight · 51-55, F
Well, that depends on your definition of progressive and your perspective in the world.
@Graylight most users here hate progress! Especially the progressive politics that might end poverty or the climate crisis. They're hateful conservatives, like the majority of users but not people, everywhere!
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Roundandroundwego True enough. They're often the actual disadvantaged, feeling inadequate to jump into affairs that take critical thought and education. They're anxious about trying new things and so cling to old ways. For all their shouting, they're little more than cornered animals trying to make themselves fierce as the fear for their lives.

The only reason not to want progress (the benefit is inherent in the word itself) is because it's feared.
SW-User
It depends what you consider "progressive". If it's about social reform you could argue that progressive politics stays true to the meaning of progressive, but the problem is that those social reforms often aren't good. Modern progressivism generally seems to be a plight on society.
StormChaser800 · 41-45, M
@SW-User I'm just using the term many use, " progressive " this and that. But doesn't seem very progressive at all
SW-User
@StormChaser800 Examples?
StormChaser800 · 41-45, M
@SW-User I'm not going to explain the obvious stuff
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
Progressives have always been the regressives among us. Wisdom says that there is nothing new under the sun. Foolishness says that the world is new every morning. Progressives believe that the world can be modified and molded into the desired outcome. Conservatives know that the best you can do is to control the insanity within.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
No quite Marxist though
SW-User
All politics are aspirational.
StormChaser800 · 41-45, M
@SW-User Did you just land on planet Earth?
SW-User
@StormChaser800 Shut up.
StormChaser800 · 41-45, M
@SW-User Get off this page
Sure. I was born in the closing days of Jim Crow, and was once bodily tossed out of a segregated store I wandered into, as a child. Progressive laws meant that generally doesn’t happen to people nowadays, although some right-wingers would probably like to take us back there.
Progressive as in progressing toward fascism, socialism, communism, totalitarianism? Yep.
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StormChaser800 · 41-45, M
@nightjourney Wouldn't refer to war as progressive .
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Do you suppose the Robber Barons were unfairly targeted by reformers?

 
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