The Supreme Court can't be stopped

U.S. Supreme Court takes aim at separation of church and state

The conservative-majority U.S. Supreme Court has chipped away at the wall separating church and state in a series of new rulings, eroding American legal traditions intended to prevent government officials from promoting any particular faith.

In three decisions in the past eight weeks, the court has ruled against government officials whose policies and actions were taken to avoid violating the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment prohibition on governmental endorsement of religion - known as the "establishment clause."

They also delivered a decision on Friday that was hailed by religious conservatives - overturning the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling that legalized abortion nationwide - though that case did not involve the establishment clause.

Don't lose focus - it's not any particular group they're going after, it's everyone.

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Subsumedpat · 36-40, M

No it can't be stopped, the easiest way to deal with the decision which has recently got some people upset is the pass a law which federalizes the right to abortion. The house proposed legislation which would protect personal data stored on reproductive health apps, ensure the right to free travel between states and codify the right to an abortion. Also to codify abortion rights as set out under the 1973 Roe decision in a bill known as the Women’s Health Protection Act. Of course blocked by a senate filibuster. We have not always had the filibuster and the Democrats in the senate could get rid of it with the stroke of the pen while they are still in power. Would have other consequences but they are going to get pressured to do it.

checkoutanytime · 46-50, M

@Subsumedpat or just vote within your own state, probably the more productive avenue.

Subsumedpat · 36-40, M

@checkoutanytime If I was only worried about myself then I would do nothing as I can't get pregnant in the first place. It is a matter of principal and needs to be dealt with on a nationwide basis. I feel it is a violation of the 1st amendment establishing a religious connection between church and state. It needs to be put back like it was instead of catering to the religious beliefs of others.

checkoutanytime · 46-50, M

@Subsumedpat counting on the Federal Government is basically doing nothing. Is why dealing with it on the State level will be more productive. I dont think late term termination will ever be legal again, people are catching on to what thats really about.

Subsumedpat · 36-40, M

@checkoutanytime Not so since it is the federal government, the judicial branch which brought us here, the change can pass the house and only needs 10 more votes in the senate, you don't like that solution because it would be too hard to change back.

checkoutanytime · 46-50, M

@Subsumedpat that will never happen bc its not a federal issue.

The feds can't regulate abortion, States can is what people seem to misinterpret about the constitution.

Subsumedpat · 36-40, M

@checkoutanytime You need to read about the civil rights movement and see how federal law easily supplanted state laws allowing discrimination. The Women’s Health Protection Act defines abortion as interstate commerce and uses the commerce clause to gain jurisdiction. They not only can but it is easy. They also control health care information and facilities on federal property regardless of what state it is in.

checkoutanytime · 46-50, M

@Subsumedpat civil rights is a constitutional matter. My point is if you want action the federal government isn't nearly as reliable as State legislation.

Subsumedpat · 36-40, M

@checkoutanytime Too many states to try to accomplish something at the same time, drugs are not a federal issue but the feds used the commerce clause to exert control over what substance is illegal and what is not , drugs are not mentioned anywhere in the constitution. Civil rights are not in the constitution, the court used the Due Process clause of the 14th amendment to apply them to the states just like they did in roe v wade. Federal law can easily allow abortions in all states.

checkoutanytime · 46-50, M

@Subsumedpat yes it can, but relying on the federal government to do anything is foolish. It took 100 years after the civil war to stand up for civil rights.

Subsumedpat · 36-40, M

@checkoutanytime This is real simple, you do both. That is what I am going to do, vote against the anti-choice candidates at the state and federal level. The November elections will send a very strong message one way or the other.

checkoutanytime · 46-50, M

@Subsumedpat i dont think anyone would vote for those vampires. They are the ones taking the waste and profitting off it.