@BlueVeins Agreed. Beat the villains at their own game.

@Mak03 Oh, they will. Don't you worry. We'll just raise it to 19.

@dancingtongue Ummm I agree that we're in legislative gridlock, but failing to "sink to their tactics" on principle is national suicide at this point. If we're willing to trade the moral high ground away for the Supreme Court, we may as well just nuke ourselves and get it over with.

@BlueVeins Understand the point you're making, but if you resort to their tactics you already lost the moral high ground. Biden already has nominated and had more federal judges confirmed for the lower courts than any President in recent times. It is the long game, but it is not "doing nothing". The bigger problem lies in the Senate's chokehold when the filibuster rule is abused and used to grind everything to gridlock rather than a legitimate brake for the minority to slow down the process and avoid a stampede to rash decisions. And the only way to do that is for voters to return to sending statesmen to the Senate who are more interested in bipartisanship governing than in ideological wins in some culture war.

@dancingtongue The democrats derive their moral high ground not from adherence to process, but from their support for marginalized people and civil rights, broadly. Imagine sitting down in a room with an impoverished family who just lost a child to a back alley abortion and telling them we didn't help them because following process gave us a philosophical victory.

Besides, the Republicans don't believe in process. If we always follow the rules and they don't, they're just gonna keep gaining ground on us beyond their institutional advantage, and they're gonna eventually succeed at destroying democracy anyway.

Would I be surprised that cons believe in witch drs?

No. But this is what cons do...Booga Booga!!!!!!!

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@Vin53 thats crazy talk. Liberals make people afraid to live their life witb all their mental warfare that they do.

heheheh...are you really asserting that your fore-fathers were dems who wanted to free black people from slavery? This is cons greatest wish fo legislate back to black slavery in America.


@checkoutanytime

@Vin53 no im not saying that. The whigs were totally British parliamentary dubs. The democrats only had Andrew Jackson to be proud of. The Republicans were born under Abe Lincolns youth, which he in turn freed the slaves from the democrat bigots .

@Vin53
Do you really believe that?