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hartfire · 61-69
Yeah, it's ironic if one thinks back on the first pilgrim settlers. Ostensibly they were running away from religious intolerance in the UK, yet now they seek to impose their intolerance on everyone else.
Surely freedom of belief must include all beliefs, including that of agnostics and atheists -- so long as a belief causes no harm to others.
Surely freedom of belief must include all beliefs, including that of agnostics and atheists -- so long as a belief causes no harm to others.
@hartfire
Well i think it's a little more pernicious than that because i don't doubt that most Christian people who would like to see the US be a "Christian Nation" would be happy to allow other people to believe as they want to believe...they just want the rule of law to be aligned with only their own beliefs.
Well i think it's a little more pernicious than that because i don't doubt that most Christian people who would like to see the US be a "Christian Nation" would be happy to allow other people to believe as they want to believe...they just want the rule of law to be aligned with only their own beliefs.
hartfire · 61-69
@Pikachu I think the majority of Christians are reasonably moderate and accepting of differences (as are moderates of all faiths). It's the evangelists, fundamentalists and creationists who tend to want to turn their values into laws governing all.
One of the things bothering me about the recent overturning of Roe V. Wade is that apparently it will result in 118 times more deaths among Black and Brown American women due to lack of sufficient health care, according to research by a professor at LA uni.
One of the things bothering me about the recent overturning of Roe V. Wade is that apparently it will result in 118 times more deaths among Black and Brown American women due to lack of sufficient health care, according to research by a professor at LA uni.
@hartfire
Yeah this is the thing. When decisions are made along ideological lines and not evidence-based....people are going to get hurt.
And all these pro-lifers are going to cheer that women might not be able to get abortions, meanwhile, women are going to be getting injured, dying and getting unsafe at home abortions.
Yeah this is the thing. When decisions are made along ideological lines and not evidence-based....people are going to get hurt.
And all these pro-lifers are going to cheer that women might not be able to get abortions, meanwhile, women are going to be getting injured, dying and getting unsafe at home abortions.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@hartfire if you know anything about the seperatists they weren't very religiously tolerant themselves in fact first woman hung in the colonies was hung in Boston for breaking law banning quackers
hartfire · 61-69
@Mountainlady16 I had heard that. The long-held myths about the early settlers are being corrected by deeper research into the earliest records.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
hartfire · 61-69
@Mountainlady16 I'll check into the latest research.