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Being an old bat, I can say with complete sincerity that the current bunch of rubbish that is the British cabinet is the worst collection of nothings we have had in my lifetime.
We have suffered from shocking prime ministers in the past - Thatcher was the worst - but this lot, collectively, are unbelievably crass.
Roll on the general election.
Or the revolution!
whowasthatmaskedman61-69, M
The standard of elected officials has dropped a lot in many Western Democracies over the past few decades.. You just cant get good people to run for office.馃樂
HarrietteSpeedy61-69, F
@MartinII The quality of management has fallen in the past thirty years, not just politicians. They are self entitled from 'elite' schools, not decent folk who have risen by graft and hard work. That - obviously - is a sweeping statement.
whowasthatmaskedman61-69, M
@MartinII Opinions, But I might be incorrect. On the right, smart people can make a lot more in business honestly. Plus the internet, social Media and smart phones now mean there is no such thing as a personal life for a politician. Then throw in the modern media campaign meaning that no one goes into office without big compromises of principle. Personally for me, the idea that even if I was "successful" close to half the people would hate me on principle would be enough. Not that I am sensitive. I just dont want to get run off the road..馃樂
MartinII70-79, M
@whowasthatmaskedman Thanks for that. I think all those points are valid. When, 50 years ago, I had vague ambitions to have a career in politics, I realised that one requirement was an ability to be nice to a lot of people one disliked or disapproved of. Not, I鈥檓 afraid, a skill I have ever acquired!
Johnson's coming close to Thatcher in worst prime minister terms, as nasty as she was, she never displayed his sense of self entitlement.
HarrietteSpeedy61-69, F
@Mindfulness That is true. She just destroyed people and communities. Johnson's Brexit may destroy the Union, with its treatment of Northern Ireland and Scotland- both of whom voted against Brexit and both of whom are suffering because of it.
Joeyyy26-30, M
Yeah after Blair it was just terrible. Cameron and Johnson have been the worst imo, the most self serving irresponsible people I've ever seen in office in my lifetime so far.

I hope Starmers not going to be so neutral and milktoast when the election rolls in because he's not really a leader at all. They better have some great policies and not just rely on the Conservatives being shite.
MartinII70-79, M
@Joeyyy I think the coalition government under Cameron from 2010-15 was rather good. I don鈥檛 mean I agreed with all its policies, but on the whole I think it governed fairly and competently. Cameron lost his way when he was on his own, and Nick Clegg got no thanks.
Joeyyy26-30, M
@MartinII I feel like it kinda goes out the window in the shadow of the surprise referendum he pulled. Also the decisions regarding university costs and their poor bashing benefit reforms didn't sit well with me at all.
MartinII70-79, M
@Joeyyy I can understand that. I鈥檓 trying to assess him dispassionately rather than according to my own particular opinions. He just seemed so much less comfortable when he was on his own. And I think it was a great mistake to resign immediately after the referendum.
You may be a self-proclaimed old bat, but you seem to be the sharpest pencil in the drawer! 馃槀馃尫馃 I'll pray for your escape. 馃ぃ馃槀
HarrietteSpeedy61-69, F
@LadyGrace Why thank you, your Ladyship!
CharlesRomsey61-69, M
The Government is too big and all encompassing: it needs to shrink, preferably to the original functions: maintain order, and defend the nation.
HarrietteSpeedy61-69, F
@CharlesRomsey That would mean to lose all that people have worked for since the 1790s- and leave the ordinary people at the mercy of rampant capitalism.
Applepiedom56-60, M
Older here too. U.s. seems issues world wide . Representatives that are after their own interests not the people

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