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walt82 · 80-89, M
Here's a comment from at least one conservative who replied to this topic -
"boudinMan · 56-60, M
for starters:
- secure the southern border. if someone wants to immigrate, they must follow the rules.
- keep taxes low, including corporate taxes.
- strive for energy independence.
- males have penises, females don't. no exceptions. no need to be teaching sexual orientation to kids in K - 3. parents can do that.
- term limits for congress."
This is good - I agree with the first point. The southern immigration route has got to be controlled. How about this - take the money that's required to effectively stop illegal immigration and spend it to create jobs and improved living conditions in the countries where the immigrants are coming from. This might actually benefit our own economy by creating an alternative to Chinese manufacturing.
Point two - Lower taxes, everyone wants lower taxes but taxes must be equitable. The last round of cuts benefitted the wealthy greatly with very little for the overburdened middle class.
Point three - everyone agrees with this.
Point four - Yes and no. K-3 probably. Older kids should be made aware that certain tendencies are not evil, they just happen and must be respected. Burying our heads in the sand pretending this will go away if we just ignore it is not going to work, it never has. No one chooses to be gay or trans, they are born that way and parents just are not equipped to properly explain this because most of us don't really understand this issue well enough.
Point five - Agreed.
"boudinMan · 56-60, M
for starters:
- secure the southern border. if someone wants to immigrate, they must follow the rules.
- keep taxes low, including corporate taxes.
- strive for energy independence.
- males have penises, females don't. no exceptions. no need to be teaching sexual orientation to kids in K - 3. parents can do that.
- term limits for congress."
This is good - I agree with the first point. The southern immigration route has got to be controlled. How about this - take the money that's required to effectively stop illegal immigration and spend it to create jobs and improved living conditions in the countries where the immigrants are coming from. This might actually benefit our own economy by creating an alternative to Chinese manufacturing.
Point two - Lower taxes, everyone wants lower taxes but taxes must be equitable. The last round of cuts benefitted the wealthy greatly with very little for the overburdened middle class.
Point three - everyone agrees with this.
Point four - Yes and no. K-3 probably. Older kids should be made aware that certain tendencies are not evil, they just happen and must be respected. Burying our heads in the sand pretending this will go away if we just ignore it is not going to work, it never has. No one chooses to be gay or trans, they are born that way and parents just are not equipped to properly explain this because most of us don't really understand this issue well enough.
Point five - Agreed.
BohemianBoo · M
@walt82 He's lying. And this is the reason why we can't debate or even discuss things with Conservatives. They're Fascists, but can't openly say so.
[quote]- secure the southern border. if someone wants to immigrate, they must follow the rules.[/quote]
Biden did this, but they don't actually care, so they keep lying about how we have open borders.
[quote]- keep taxes low, including corporate taxes.[/quote]
True, but misleading. They want taxes low for the rich. They're fine when taxes are raised on the working-class.
[quote]- strive for energy independence.[/quote]
They're against absolutely any policy that works towards this.
[quote]- males have penises, females don't. no exceptions. no need to be teaching sexual orientation to kids in K - 3. parents can do that.[/quote]
Aside from the "no exceptions" part being objectively wrong, this is really just about them hating trans people.
And nobody wants to teach sexual orientation to kids, but a lot of people do want kids to know that gay people exist, the same way they're taught that straight people exist. But Conservatives hate gays, so they're against this. And that's what they really mean.
[quote]- term limits for congress."[/quote]
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on this one, though it's probably bullshit too.
[quote]- secure the southern border. if someone wants to immigrate, they must follow the rules.[/quote]
Biden did this, but they don't actually care, so they keep lying about how we have open borders.
[quote]- keep taxes low, including corporate taxes.[/quote]
True, but misleading. They want taxes low for the rich. They're fine when taxes are raised on the working-class.
[quote]- strive for energy independence.[/quote]
They're against absolutely any policy that works towards this.
[quote]- males have penises, females don't. no exceptions. no need to be teaching sexual orientation to kids in K - 3. parents can do that.[/quote]
Aside from the "no exceptions" part being objectively wrong, this is really just about them hating trans people.
And nobody wants to teach sexual orientation to kids, but a lot of people do want kids to know that gay people exist, the same way they're taught that straight people exist. But Conservatives hate gays, so they're against this. And that's what they really mean.
[quote]- term limits for congress."[/quote]
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on this one, though it's probably bullshit too.