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A Handbook for Genocide.

Russia has just issued a genocide handbook for its war on Ukraine. The Russian official press agency "RIA Novosti" published last Sunday an explicit program for the complete elimination of the Ukrainian nation as such. It is still available for viewing, and has now been translated several times into English.

(https://medium.com/@kravchenko_mm/what-should-russia-do-with-ukraine-translation-of-a-propaganda-article-by-a-russian-journalist-a3e92e3cb64)

A "Nazi," as the genocide manual explains, is simply a human being who self-identifies as Ukrainian. According to the handbook, the establishment of a Ukrainian state thirty years ago was the "nazification of Ukraine." Indeed "any attempt to build such a state" has to be a "Nazi" act. Ukrainians are "Nazis" because they fail to accept "the necessity that the people support Russia."

For anyone still out there who believes that Putin's Russia opposes the extreme right in Ukraine or anywhere else, the genocide program is a chance to reconsider. Putin's Russian regime talks of “Nazis” not because it opposes the extreme right, which it most certainly does not, but as a rhetorical device to justify unprovoked war and genocidal policies. Putin’s regime is the extreme right. It is the world center of fascism. It supports fascists and extreme-right authoritarians around the world. In traducing the meaning of words like "Nazi," Putin and his propagandists are creating more rhetorical and political space for fascists in Russia and elsewhere.

The genocide handbook explains that the Russian policy of "denazification" is not directed against Nazis in the sense that the word is normally used. The handbook grants, with no hesitation, that there is no evidence that Nazism, as generally understood, is important in Ukraine. It operates within the special Russian definition of "Nazi": a Nazi is a Ukrainian who refuses to admit being a Russian. The "Nazism" in question is "amorphous and ambivalent"; one must, for example, be able to see beneath the world of appearance and decode the affinity for Ukrainian culture or for the European Union as "Nazism."
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
The best thing about the Russia/Ukraine conflict(for me personally) is it clearly demonstrates who among the posters here is fully indoctrinated and going along with the narratives...

...as previously discussed, you didn't give a shit about any of this until the MSM told you to care about Ukraine...
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@SumKindaMunster Indoctrinate. Indoctrinate. I am a Dalek.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@RodionRomanovitch ....and once again when things get too difficult for you, you regress to name calling and finger pointing...anything else?
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@SumKindaMunster [quote]you didn't give a shit about any of this[/quote]

‘This’ being the invasion of a sovereign democracy, and the murder of its men, women, and children, I assume?

‘This’ being the deliberate destruction of schools, hospitals, apartment blocks, and civilian infrastructure, I assume?

‘This’ being civilians being raped, executed, maimed, and starved, I assume?

In fact, I’ve [i]always[/i] given a shit about such crimes... or don’t you see them as being crimes?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@newjaninev2 This is a great representative example of what I am speaking about...

[quote]n fact, I’ve always given a shit about such crimes... or don’t you see them as being crimes?
[/quote]

In fact, nothing I said gave any sort of indication about my personal opinion or feelings about the Russia/Ukraine conflict for the people currently experiencing it. To be clear, I think its horrible, military conflict should always be the last option, and I have great sympathy for the poor people caught up in death, destruction, loss and heartache because two super powers are engaging in a proxy war.

And the fact that you immediately assumed the worst, and then tried to box me into an either/or binary choice is exactly the kind of indoctrinated, biased thinking and behavior that I am referring to when I say...

[quote]The best thing about the Russia/Ukraine conflict(for me personally) is it clearly demonstrates who among the posters here is fully indoctrinated and going along with the narratives[/quote]

Thanks for providing an anecdotal example, it helped me underline my point! 👍🍻
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@SumKindaMunster Indoctrinate. Indoctrinate. I am a Dalek.
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@RodionRomanovitch You should consider ripping a bong hit, it will help you relax and be more creative...you're kinda repetitive....
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@SumKindaMunster ....... says the guy who can't engage in discussion without mentioning the word indoctrinate , and somehow fails to notice the irony.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@gol979 Sorry but I'm going to cancel your bullshit. Feel free to offer opinions , but alternative facts won't be tolerated.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@RodionRomanovitch haha got to love self censorship. "Your wordies hurt my feelings". Infantile
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@gol979 No , your wordies were lies. Understand now ?
gol979 · 41-45, M
@RodionRomanovitch which bit were lies.....oh ppl cant check because you are indulging in censorship. I will add if they were obvious lies you would have left the comment on there and pointed out the lies with verifiable facts. But nope, you chose to delete and expose yourself as an ideologue
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@SumKindaMunster [quote]military conflict should always be the last option[/quote]

and what options were explored and rejected before the russian barbarians invaded the sovereign democracy of ukraine? Options for what... satisfying the personal wants and demands of the lying autocrat putin? Are you saying that this war is his personal temper tantrum?



[quote]the poor people caught up in death, destruction, loss and heartache[/quote]

Yes, that’s the Ukrainian men, women, and children being murdered, raped, and maimed by the russian barbarians who invaded their sovereign democracy... or are the Ukraininans currently outside Moscow and targeting russia’s hospitals, schools, and apartment blocks? Are russian civilians being bound, tortured, and summarily executed by Einsatzgruppen?

[quote]because two super powers are engaging in a proxy war[/quote]

[i]One[/i] former superpower is engaging in a war, and has neither the integrity nor the honesty to call it a war. The lying autocrat putin is so pathetic that he even has to threaten russian citizens with harsh periods of imprisonment if they refer to his unilateral aggression as a war. Here in countries where the Rule of Law matters, there’s a legal concept called the Guilty Mind... and putin and his cronies very clearly demonstrate that concept
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@gol979 'which bit were lies' ...... well all of it if I remember correctly ..... you know , the bit about the US coup , and the Ukranian government committing genocide against their own people ..... the self same things Putin uses as justifications for his war.

Did I miss anything out ?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@RodionRomanovitch So admittedly, I use the word indoctrinate/indoctrinated quite often, that is true. However, I use them in the proper context to describe what I see happening and what I believe is occurring. I can't help but think you might be a tad triggered by my use of the word and wonder if the issue is I am accurate and you are uncomfortable that I see things that way.

Oh and please feel free to explain the "irony" of me using the word, I'm curious what you find ironic about it.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@RodionRomanovitch so there wasnt a coup in 2014 conducted by the us? And the ukrainian military havent been bombing the dombass region since 2015? The other question was that the ukrainian military forces have overt neo-nazis operating.....azov battalion
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@newjaninev2 You are going on about the military conflict in Russia/Ukraine which is not my point at all.

Rather I am pointing out that people like you have completely and utterly "swallowed the Koolaide" on this story and are spending your time angrily demanding I express my opinion about the war crimes going on in this conflict.

I've already expressed my horror and sympathy for the people caught up in this, the rest of your reply is utterly beside the point.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@gol979 There was a coup .... it wasn't the work of the US.

Ukraine has been fighting a war against Russian backed separatists. i.e. The Russian Army. There is no genocide.

The Azov batallion does have some far right elements. Putin's 'private army' The Wagner Group is commanded by a guy who has Waffen SS tatoos on his neck.

When you post idle and ignorant speculation as fact don't be surprised when it's removed.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@SumKindaMunster No-one 'demanded' you express an opinion. You chose to come here for entirely different motives , remember ?

The fact that you want to pivot every single discussion to your own obsession is something you really need to address. It's bordering on pathological.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@RodionRomanovitch

[quote]You chose to come here for entirely different motives , remember ?[/quote]

I did yes, but you also chose to engage and made some accusations that I addressed.

[quote]The fact that you want to pivot every single discussion to your own obsession is something you really need to address. It's bordering on pathological[/quote]

Thanks for your input! 👍 If I truly thought you cared about my well being and this wasn't your defensiveness coming into play, I might actually consider your advice.

As it stands, you accused me of some things, I addressed those concerns and offered my own challenge, which you declined. Instead you pivoted back to insults and snark.

I have nothing to be ashamed about here, I engaged you authentically and responded relevantly, it is you who are wildly flailing about with insults and accusations seemingly hoping I will be upset or put off by your behavior.

Anything else?
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@SumKindaMunster Sorry , but I really don't know what you are talking about. Every single discussion , on whatever topic , reduces down to your accusation that anyone who holds an opinion you don't like must be 'indoctrinated' by your bête noir , the mainstream media , and that you are somehow privvy to a higher knowledge. In other words ; conspiracy theory QAnon bullshit.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@RodionRomanovitch [quote]Every single discussion , on whatever topic , reduces down to your accusation that anyone who holds an opinion you don't like must be 'indoctrinated' by your bête noir [/quote]

That's not true at all. If that's the kind of discussion you and I engage in, well then I would say you are just as repetitive, tedious, and tiresome as you seem to find my accusations of indoctrination. Again, I am responding to you in a relevant and sincere manner, but you seem exasperated with it all.

If that is the case, might I suggest you move on and stop engaging me with your repetitive propaganda and indoctrinated opinion?

While boring at times, I do learn from such engagements. I see again and again how you and those like you consistently engage in binary arguments, the opinion du jour straight from the MSM, and angry but inaccurate accusations and assumptions. I'm getting something out of this, it's unfortunate you do not. 💁‍♂️
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@SumKindaMunster It clearly is pathological. I'm outta here.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@RodionRomanovitch Buh bye! 😆 Until next time....👋