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HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
No one supports Putin.
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@HoraceGreenley [media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRX2u70vBWc]
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
@CorvusBlackthorne give it a rest.
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@HoraceGreenley No. I will not give it a rest. So long as you continue to propagate lies, I will be there, telling the truth.
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CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@HoraceGreenley Mr. Trump quite literally expressed the desire to use the same tactics on Mexico. It is quite clear he approved.
SW-User
@HoraceGreenley Here's what a person says when they don't support the invasion in Ukraine; "Putin is evil and I do not condone his actions".

This is what you say when you side with Putin; "He's a very smart guy. We should do that on our south border".

Do ya see the difference.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@CorvusBlackthorne To be fair, trump was just stating American foreign policy, which is to invade other people's countries. We invaded Mexico and took the majority of the country. The US occupied Nicaragua for about 21 years.

The US has "invaded" all but three current countries.
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
@SW-User Apparently the sarcasm and subtlety is lost on you
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
@Diotrephes What are you smoking?
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@HoraceGreenley Which comment are you referring to?
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HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
@Diotrephes You only have one in this thread. Its American foreign policy to invade countries
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
@SW-User Yes Trump is being sarcastic. Putin took Crimea during the Obama Administration. Niw Putin invades Ukraine during the Biden administration.

See a pattern?

Putin takes advantage of feckless US Presdents. Putin didn't do this stuff when Trump was in office.

Putin is an opportunists. Biden is weak. Trump is making a comparison. Weak US Presidents get taken advantage
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@HoraceGreenley I'm sorry that your schools never taught American history.

These are the only 3 countries America hasn’t invaded
"American historian Christopher Kelly and British historian Stuart Laycock are the authors of “America Invades: How We’ve Invaded Or Been Militarily Involved With Almost Every Country on Earth.” They define “invasion” as “an armed attack or intervention in a country by American forces.”

According to Kelly and Laycock’s book, the United States has invaded or fought in 84 of the 193 countries recognized by the United Nations and has been militarily involved with 191 of 193 – a staggering 98 percent.

In fact, there are only three countries in the world America hasn’t invaded or have never seen a U.S. military presence: Andorra, Bhutan, and Liechtenstein."
https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/these-are-the-only-3-countries-america-hasnt-invaded/
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@HoraceGreenley I'm sorry sir, but America really doesn't matter that much to Putin; you're applying way too much importance to the Presidency.

Putin struck in 2014 because of the Euromaidan protests; he saw unrest in Kyiv, and invaded Crimea whilst there was an opportunity with little resistance. It had nothing to do with who was President, and everything to do with the political upheaval in Ukraine.

Fast Forward to 2022; the appetite for war in Russia is wavering, and I suspect he feels it's now or never. Again, doesn't matter who's in the White House, and Putin made that clear; try to stop me and see what happens (i.e. Nuclear Warfare).

There's quite literally nothing Trump could've done to stop that. The EU and US are making the right choices at the moment; no troops on the ground, no direct military involvement, but a fuck load of sanctions and a truck load of munitions for Ukraine.

See what happens in Russia tomorrow, when the Ruble is worth less than rocks, and no one can use Mastercard/Visa.
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
@Diotrephes The world is a far better place for American intervention.

In more recent times it's worth noting that America has not had colonial designs unlike other Great Powers.

You think Grenda isn't grateful we kicked out the Cubans? Or Thailand isn't glad we helped out after the tsunami?

America is the most generous nation on the planet. It gives by far the most foreign aid and uts citizens the most to charity.

You can cite an article written by a couple of academic dip ships, but the fact remains that the world has never seen a benign and benevolent Hyperpower like the US.

You should thank God the US is the world's policeman.
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
@SW-User utter bullshit.
SW-User
@HoraceGreenley Amazing response! And typical of a person with absolutely no understanding of history outside the US.

Trump, Biden, Clinton, Obama - doesn't matter. Putin will strike whenever he likes. America really doesn't matter that much to him.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@HoraceGreenley That's one way to look at it. You can also look at it like the US has the largest empire that ever existed. Other countries are just plantations to America.
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
@SW-User Only 2 things deter warfare. A credible threat of force or other leverage.

Russia movrs based on its relationship with the West, which is the only possible countermeasure.

If a weak US President is in office, and NATO of course follows America's lead, then Putin is emboldened.

Obama was weak as was NATO. The leades were a bunch of feckless dip shits and Putin took Crimea.

Now Putin has more weak leaders but also leverage. Europe needs the oil and gas he provides. High energy prices give him cash.

Under Trump, America was net energy exporter. Supply was high so prices were low. Biden's policies cut domestic production and now energy is in short supply as demand is rising. Prices sky rocket. Putin has cash and leverage as Europe needs his oil and gas.

Having weak leades that appease him and energy leverage, Putin the opportunist strikes.

This is about oil, gas, cash and weak leaders that lack will.
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
@Diotrephes How so? America is not an occupier nor colony maker.
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@HoraceGreenley The people of Guam and the Marshall Islands might have a different perspective.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@HoraceGreenley Are you willing to be drafted and sent off to fight to the death in a foreign country? Would you be happy if your home got bombed? There are serious consequences when the shooting starts. Sometimes "weak" leaders keep you alive while "strong" leaders get you killed.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@HoraceGreenley America is an economic occupier. BTW, the US has troops in about 70 countries.
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@HoraceGreenley
If a weak US President is in office, and NATO of course follows America's lead, then Putin is emboldened.

That's not what we're seeing at all. Do you really think the response to Russian aggression has been "weak"? Russia is out of Swift, Germany have reversed their pacifist stance and increased military spend by $50 billion, whilst Switzerland have reversed on neutrality and have frozen Russian assets (both these decisions are unprecedented). No EU country is allowing Russian flights in their airspace, essentially cutting Russians off from the West. Germany and Italy have enacted sanctions on gas that will hurt their economies, but will also weaken Russia's. The EU have for the first time ever sent fighter jets to Ukraine to support the resistance.


This isn't weak - this is likely more sever than Putin ever expected. This morning, Russian inflation jumped from 8% to 20%, almost all flights were suspended, people can't use Visa/Mastercard, $1 is now equal to 100 Roubles, and Putin has been cut off from $630 billion in international reserves.

All this to say; Putin is experiencing a nightmare right now. Evidenced by the fact he has reached out for diplomacy this morning with Ukraine. We're not seeing weakness, we're seeing strength and consistency across the EU and US that we've never seen before.

Couple this with a failing invasion into Ukraine, thanks to both Ukranian resolve and the supply of international munitions, and we're looking at a very weak Russia right now