If people hate Joe Rogan for having anti-vaxxers on his show, does that mean we can hate Oprah since she had Trump on her show?

@redredred Does that apply to the NFL?

@LeopoldBloom Once they started kneeling for the national anthem and playing the so-called “Black National Anthem” the NFL outed itself and a bunch of cancelpussies.

@redredred The Dixie Chicks. Nike. Mr. Potato Head. Samantha Bee. Target. Keurig. NASCAR, for a moment. Kathy Griffin. The Gillete company. French fries. Comedian Michelle Wolf. Dr. Suess. Gays. Cheney and Kinzinger. Jan. 6th. Black & American history. Books with progressive idea or simply "naughty" thoughts. Whoopi Goldberg.

Nope, the Republicans know nothing about cancel culture.

Representative Jim Banks, the chair of the Republican Study Committee, recently wrote a memo arguing that the GOP should make “anti-wokeness” a pillar of the platform:


You all found a cute little GenZ phrase for what you've always done and will call something else one day: Rejecting thought, logic and progress for the comfort and security of being among "your own."

The escalating rhetoric on the idiot concept of "cancel culture" is conservatives' way of saying they are losing power in society and they want someone to stop that.

@Graylight Since it’s clear beyond any reasonable doubt that market economies consistently out perform command economies, which side is it that denies the science of economics? Which side is it that believes men can menstruate and have babies? Which side is it that believes that whim overrules chromosomes?

@redredred You implied the liberals had a corner on "woke" culture. You have been proven wrong. No deflections.

@Graylight it was you who accused my side of being anti-logic. I pointed out the idiotic lack of logic of your side. No deflections.

@redredred "I pointed out the idiotic lack of logic of your side."

Erm...........nope. What you've pointed out is the, oft repeated, narrative of what has become the GOP. A narrative which, as usual, has a negligible relationship with reality.

@redredred Economies that bail out Uber wealthy go broke and tank. So do those in which elites do not pay their fair share of taxes ( those also eventually find social upheaval).

Historically, venturing out to all parts of the known world to play world police bankrupted Rome, like it is us.

Social contracts between citizens for common defense and public good can help propel a nation, if paid for, as a form of reinvestment in natural resources ( ie breathable air, drinkable water, and health ecosystem), the work force ( health and social support helps keep productivity up), and the economy ( by helping people thrive we reduce crime, disease, and social unrest).

Germany pre WWII arose from deprivation forced on it after WWI. As did Russia. As did France, etc.

If people and the natural resources are mined without replenishment, they collapse...ALL known ancient civilizations collapsed when agricultural stopped being sustainable due to over reach for existent climate conditions. We are facing rising salts ( watering deserts with Les and less water,) in the Imperial Valley and many other places in the West. We are squeezing out agriculture in the east with expansion from over population.

Common sense would address all these concerns, but "capitalistic jingoism" keeps preventing using that common sense.

@Neoerectus The easiest way I’ve found to counter arguments like yours is as follows.

Tell me exactly what the fair share of taxes the rich should pay.
Give me a precise percentage, a number not some vague idea couched in an obscure idea of “fairness”.

Whenever I ask this question, I either get no response or some deferral of the question. If you want a fair share, tell me what, exactly, that fair share is.

I’ll bet you won’t.

@redredred Well, in the UK, higher rate tax is 40% for income between £50,271 and £150,000. For income above £150,000 it's 45%.

Sounds pretty fair to me.

@room101 By what right do you take 45% of someone’s earnings? What additional services do the rich require that justifies taking that higher portion? Is the only justification that they can afford it? The top 5% of earners already pay nearly 60% of tax revenue in the US

@redredred First of all...............YOU LOST YOUR BET!

Second, it is not MY right. It's the law.

Third,..........erm............YOU LOST YOUR BET!

Fourth, your entire argument vis a vis command economics is demonstrably bogus.

Fifth, the proportion of total tax revenues is both irrelevant and completely disingenuous.

@room101 I see, you just want to rant. The portion of the federal government operation financed by the richest 5% is hardly irrelevant to this discussion.

The 5% pay for 60% of the budget. The near rich pay most of the remaining 40% and the bottom 50% of the population pay almost none of the revenue.

Given that, which population cohort is being taxed unfairly?

@redredred No, I don't want to rant. If anybody is ranting, it's your good self. You are the one who is bandying about all of the usual GOP catchphrases which, in and of themselves, are fundamentally meaningless.

You lay down a challenge about fair taxation and bet that nobody would be able to define one. I gave you an actual tax rate currently implemented in the UK.

You then started ranting about rights. A topic which I find hilarious when uttered by Republicans. Even as the ink was drying on your beloved Bill of Rights, pretty much every word was demonstrably false. Of course we had the same issues in Europe. BUT, we have learned from them and tried to move forward.

Your next tactic is to scream about fairness. History and current affairs show us, unequivocally, that an unfettered market economy is by its very nature exploitative and ultimately unsustainable. As has been pointed out to you by @Neoerectus. And yet you insist that it's "unfair" for those most able to pay into the social contract in which they reside and benefit from.

@room101 Conservative Game #131: Red Herring

I bet you can't even tell me [fill in the blank].

[fills in the blank]

That's preposterous!

[Doesn't matter, I did as you asked]

I'll make another argument to deflect from the one I just lost.

[yawn]

You're not listening, you hate legitimate political discourse!

@Graylight I don't know............maybe there's something wrong with me...........for enjoying playing their silly game😂😂😂