Who are the "real" Americans?

Got an interesting reply to a point I made in another thread.
I thank that SW member for bringing up the point.
I am paraphrasing but he doesn't want to get rid of the electoral college and go for a straight popular vote, as he feels candidates would concentrate on large metropolitan areas. As opposed to small metropolitan areas (LOL). The reasons he gives is that people in these areas have forgotten the frontier spirit that perhaps he feels made America great. I'm pretty sure that somebody working in Wall Street (NY) or in Hollywood (CA) would take issue with that. They could say, if they were successful of course, that they were bringing in the $$$$$ that make America great. Do they really need to be removing timber and boulders to be a "real" American?

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badminton · 61-69, MVIP

One person-one vote. That is democracy.

Also, Americans move freely between the states and cities. As citizens we don't "belong" to any one state or region. I have lived in three states myself. The electoral college is an anachronism that should be sent to the waste bin of history.

SW-User

@badminton USA is not a democracy. It's a constitutional republic.

Learn the difference

SW-User

@badminton

The electoral college is an anachronism that should be sent to the waste bin of history

So get rid of it. All it'll take is a constitutional amendment. For that you'll need 2/3'rds of each house of Congress, the presidents signature AND 3/4's of each state's legislatures.

Good luck! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

carpediem · 61-69, M

@badminton The Electoral College was and remains to this day brilliantly conceived. It's more important than ever now. Regardless what you and your comrades believe.

badminton · 61-69, MVIP

@SW-User Actually, we don't need to remove the EC from the constitution for the President to be elected by popular vote. Article 2, section 1 of the Constitution permits a state to choose to direct its electors to award all their votes to the winner of the popular vote. So the EC would remain part of the constitution, but be effectively nullified.

The organization National Popular Vote is working to get a bill passed for that purpose. So far, 16 jurisdictions possessing 195 electoral votes for voted in favor , including 4 small states (DE, HI, RI, VT), 8 medium-sized states (CO, CT, MD, MA, NJ, NM, OR, WA), 3 big states (CA, IL, NY), and the District of Columbia.

The bill will take effect when enacted by states with 75 more electoral votes. The bill has passed at least one chamber in 9 additional states with 88 more electoral votes (AR, AZ, ME, MI, MN, NC, NV, OK, VA). A total of 3,522 state legislators from all 50 states have endorsed it.

badminton · 61-69, MVIP

@SW-User Then it's about darn well time we became a democracy. "No taxation without representation."

We vote democratically for our representatives within a Constitutional structure. So, in practical terms, the U.S. can be said to be a democracy.

SW-User

@badminton No, as you said it's within the. Constitutional structure.

Democracy is simply mob rule. One could say that's what we had last summer although that human debris in the street was hardly a majority

badminton · 61-69, MVIP

@SW-User I believe democracy means the citizens vote for their representatives in fair and free elections.

SW-User

@badminton And when sensible legislatures replace them, they will be eliminated.

The Court will wipe out many of them too.

I hope it stays when the Republican crushes it in 2024. It will be a complete schadenfreude overload when those woke joke states are forced to have their electors vote for the real American. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

SW-User

@badminton voting for representatives make it a republic.