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If U.S. had Parliamentary-style government

The Biden Administration wouldn't likely survive a No Confidence vote, meaning a new administration would need to be formed behind someone in the House of Representatives. Unlikely either Pelosi or McCarthy could build a majority coalition. Whom would it be?
If U.S. had Parliamentary-style government, Trump wouldn't have survived firing Comey, nor Don Jr's meeting with a Russian agent in Trump Tower, nor Jared's drumming up Chinese business for his Jersey City buildings, nor Jared's lies on his official financial disclosure forms.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues Possibly.

I live in a country with a Parliamentary system and its more stable than the Americans here seem to think. The May government between 2017 and 2019 had a tiny majority with a coalition partner. During that period, she was hated by most people and suffered parliamentary defeat after defeat. The Tory rebels had no confidence in her and eventually replaced her with Boris Johnson. MPs of their own party will vote against theur own govt at times but almost never vote to bring down their own govt.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
He would very likely survive a no confidence vote in this hypothetical scenario.

Also, lots of govts survive on wafer thin majorities, or indeed minorities.

The UK Conservatives lost countless votes between 2017 and 2019, mostly but not exclusively about Brexit. People voting against their own party is one thing, voting to bring down their own govt is another.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow You've always been able to do it here. The maximum term is five years. Both Thatcher and Blair both called elections after four because they were in dominant positions so it made sense to call it early to guarantee another five.

We've had three elections since the start of 2015, which is a sign of heavy political turbulence. Mostly because of Brexit.
@Burnley123 It is possible it was only a tradition. Tradition is kind of unwritten rules here. But calling early elections for political position has really only been a thing since the 2000s or the "naughties" as you Brits call it. 🤣
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow [quote]Tradition is kind of unwritten rules here.[/quote]

In Britain, it's the same. We have a constitution based on laws and tradition but not a US-style written bill of rights.

The Canadian Parliamentary model is most like the British one. You even have ridings, long after we changed the name to constituencies.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
You mean, when they change their voting system to distribute seats proportional to votes inside a certain voting area. But in that case, you won't have the parties you have now and the political field will look incredibly diffrent. So who knows what would happen in that system 🤷‍♂️, it's too hypothetical to make an estimated guess imo.

[b]EDIT:[/b] Or are you talking about the UK system?
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@dancingtongue Okay, check. But that would still demand some significant changes in how America votes right? Else the governement can change every midterms, since the majority can change half term otherwise. And with the winner takes all system that they have, chances of needing to make an actual coalition aren't that big right? Because it ussually [i](not always)[/i] generate clear majorities in the house.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@Kwek00 Obviously the two systems are not interchangeable. The thrust of my question was not to suggest changing the system, but to point out what I perceive as a dearth of potential leaders from either party in Congress these days. Particularly in the House. I remember when there were real powerhouse leaders from both parties in both the House and Senate -- men of principle more concerned with governing than party politics and re-election. I know, very last century. Now it seems only party hacks bought by the biggest campaign donors.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@dancingtongue I see. I don't think that it would generate more principled politicians though. Parliamentary systems also has party hacks and campaign donors as long as they are permitted. That last part, you can regualte though, there are countries that have way more restrictions when it comes to party finance then the US has.
The Trump Administration wouldn’t have lasted six months.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@LeopoldBloom He wouldnt have gotten in, because the party couldnt have elected him leader.😷
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
The Republicans would never leave office if the U.S. had a parliamentary system. They would engineer votes of confidence and inflict the population with gerrymandering.

trump and spawn would be like the dynasty in North Korea.
Agreed. In some ways when the founding fathers of the USA decided to "fix" the Westminster system they just made it even more broken. The road to hell and all that.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
But if America had a parliamentary system, Biden would not be PM. Pelosi would..😷
Human1000 · M
Dems hold a 10-11 seat majority depending on how you count -- which Dems would vote him down?
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@Human1000 The progressives who feel they were betrayed by his separating the infra-structure bills and his failure to bring Manchin into the fold.
Human1000 · M
@dancingtongue So, the fascists would vote with the socialists to elect a more liberal President? I don't see it. You need Bibi level hate for that.

 
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