I'd like to ask exactly HOW someone ISN'T mentally ill if they decide to shoot up a school??

People claim "there's no evidence for psychological or mental health issues affecting the shootings" but i don't know how rational of a conclusion that claim really is.

I mean, I'd really like to know what the other reasons are for why someone would do this. Excluding the terrorists known commonly as incels ("I'm going to shoot a school full of my classmates because a girl I liked didn't accept my advances"), there have been individuals that have literally shot up classrooms where only kindergarten kids were.

I don't agree that a shooting like the Sandy Hook shooting was on the same level as that of an incel killer. The man was a grown adult and his victims were all 5-6 year old children, and I'm really wondering how exactly someone didn't rule out mental health in that case. Because if you wake up in the morning and decide to shoot up a classroom filled with kindergarten kids, you are mentally unhealthy to some extent.

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GoodoldBob · 61-69, M

That is the real issue. People try and blame the guns but it isn't the gun's fault. Millions of people own millions of guns and do no harm. The harm comes from the fact that there are so many loonies on the loose. We pretend abnormal things are normal. A man puts on a dress and starts calling himself Sally and instead of getting him mental help we all start calling him Sally. Society is sick. Not only have standards been abandoned but so have logic and sense.

The lunatics are running the asylum indeed.

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@GoodoldBob

GoodoldBob · 61-69, M

@LordShadowfire Yeah I took that class in college too. But I passed it.

There is a mental health problem in this country and covid has made it worse. And as long as it isn't addressed we will have riots like the ones in Portland last year and the January 6 fiasco in D.C. and, yes, random shootings.

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@GoodoldBob

Yeah I took that class in college too. But I passed it.

Ha. I doubt that, unless you're playing Logical Fallacy Bingo.

You even deflected with a Kitchen Sink Fallacy, bringing in your hatred for trans people. Or was that an appeal to emotion fallacy? Or both, maybe?

Graylight · 51-55, F

@GoodoldBob Here's the thing, though. Cross dressing isn't a mental illness, not according to one single US medico-psychological organization. And loosened standards wouldn't cause anyone to embark on a murderous rampage other than people trying to punish others for being different than him.

More than half of all gun death are suicides. Hardly 'loonie rampage.' Next up? Police shootings. After that? Accidents. And then? Undetermined.(https://www.statista.com/chart/6963/most-gun-deaths-in-the-united-states-are-suicides/).

I don't argue that by the time someone gets to the point they have a firearm in their hands pointed at someone, something essential has failed in their brain, but it's got nothing to do with a lazy strawman.