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To Covid Vax or Not to Covid Vax

Firstly, I did not get Vaxed.
I wasn't brainwashed into not wanting it by Fox News or Qanon.
I feel it was pushed through too quickly. There hasn't been enough time, in my personal opinion, to know what the big picture will bring.

A few things bother me about the many arguments I have participated in and seen on here regarding this.
If a person wants to take measures to attempt to not get this virus than by all means get the Vax. Why do I have to get it for you to be safe from it??? This confuses me.

The last thing I saw mentioned the over crowded E-Rooms because of the un-vaxed getting the virus. Wouldn't this imply that we should also ban mass transit being as if a bus or train has a crash then more people than an E-Room can handle could need treatment??

It seems to be an easy choice either way you lean but proof dictates that it isn't that simple.
No one is arguing over the Flu Vax. Aren't people worried that if I don't get it then they may contract it even though they have taken that Vax??

Apparently I am missing a keystone in my tunnel because I am lost on this.
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cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
What is disturbing is that no one wants to take liability for injuries or deaths from these vaccines, yet they are constantly pushing everyone to take them. Every single drug that has been put on the market for years and then withdrawn due to serious side effects including death was approved by the FDA and most have class-action lawsuits against the pharmaceutical companies that manufactured them. They were advertised heavily too. You never see a commercial for any brand of these Covid vaccines on TV, they would have to tell possible side effects and they are not willing to do it. What the pharmaceutical companies have done to get around that is to hire celebrities and social influencers to tell everyone to get the vaccine…social pressure from these people. I wonder how much money they’ve invested in doing this.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@cherokeepatti You hit a very strong spot that I over looked.
Responsibility for their product. If they don't have faith enough in it to stand behind it than why would I sign up to get it??
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
@cherokeepatti exactly...

in laymans terms...

It's like if Boeing built a new plane, rushed it into production without quality or safety testing, and the government made it compulsory that you ride it on the premise of it being for your own safety, then completely absolved themselves of any liability if it crashed...

would you ride on it?
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Dainbramadge and the way that the media has pushed for everyone to get the vax constantly each and every day and the agencies having news conferences, CDC and Fauci using fear-mongering it seems like pure propaganda.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@cherokeepatti seems like because it is.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@cherokeepatti As a general principle I don't get vaxed. I base that on the general ineffectiveness of what is called vaccines. MMR does not confer immunity, the flu vax is so ineffective they fall back on the old "It doesn't prevent it simply lessens symptoms" rhubarb. Ditto the covid vax. It can not be shown to have any effect on catching or dying from the virus. Given that the virus itself is not very dangerous and the fact that the vax is very dangerous who in their right mind would get vaxed now?
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@hippyjoe1955 I got para flu with flu vaccinations and it would come back several times till spring. I also developed rheumatoid arthritis about the same time in my mid-thirties which I suspect the vaccine triggered an auto-immune response. I never heard of anyone that I knew having fibromyalgia or lupus when I was growing up. See more and more of it now and with younger people