To Covid Vax or Not to Covid Vax

Firstly, I did not get Vaxed.
I wasn't brainwashed into not wanting it by Fox News or Qanon.
I feel it was pushed through too quickly. There hasn't been enough time, in my personal opinion, to know what the big picture will bring.

A few things bother me about the many arguments I have participated in and seen on here regarding this.
If a person wants to take measures to attempt to not get this virus than by all means get the Vax. Why do I have to get it for you to be safe from it??? This confuses me.

The last thing I saw mentioned the over crowded E-Rooms because of the un-vaxed getting the virus. Wouldn't this imply that we should also ban mass transit being as if a bus or train has a crash then more people than an E-Room can handle could need treatment??

It seems to be an easy choice either way you lean but proof dictates that it isn't that simple.
No one is arguing over the Flu Vax. Aren't people worried that if I don't get it then they may contract it even though they have taken that Vax??

Apparently I am missing a keystone in my tunnel because I am lost on this.

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PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

[quote]I feel it was pushed through too quickly. There hasn't been enough time, in my personal opinion, to know what the big picture will bring.
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That might be your opinion but it is factually wrong.

[quote]Why do I have to get it for you to be safe from it??? This confuses me.[/quote]

Simple, if you are unvaccinated you are more likely to spread it and provide a nice incubator for the virus to mutate and become more dangerous and pushing everyone 2 or 3 steps backwards.

Also unvaccinated people being hospitalized is slamming the medical system.

And ERs are equipped to handle large crashes, not thousands making frankly stupid decisions putting everyone including the staff at risk. You can't spread a car or bus crash.

The flu for the 1000 000th time is a completely different animal. Might as well bring up ebola for how relevant it is (meaning not at all)

Absolute best case scenario covid is 10 times more dangerous and we passed best case scenario a year and a half ago.

Dainbramadge · 56-60, M

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Did you even read what I wrote???
You are, just like your comments on Zonnus's post, argumentative and insulting.
That is all you do is push [b][i]YOUR[/i][/b] narrative and completely ignore what anyone else has to say.
There is a lot of information floating around on this topic. Some for some against.
When I made my decision to [b][i]NOT[/i][/b] get it it wasn't because I was told it was bad. It was because I didn't think it was tested enough. And yes. [b][i]MY[/i][/b] opinion. I listened to the pro-Vax people and made my decision from what wasn't making sense.
[quote]Simple, if you are unvaccinated you are more likely to spread it and provide a nice incubator for the virus to mutate and become more dangerous and pushing everyone 2 or 3 steps backwards.[/quote] See I can do it too and it still doesn't make me any better than anyone else.
You need to learn to have conversations not just write to enjoy reading your own work.

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@Dainbramadge I did, and I specifically responded to your comments.

Like I said, you are entitled to your opinion but that doesn't make it correct or factual.

I specifically addressed your comments. Conversations and debates are not about denying facts to spare someone's feelings.

Dainbramadge · 56-60, M

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Asking a question and having an opinion are not meant to be factual or correct.
You did realize that this was a question right??
I mean you didn't jump the gun and only focus on part of the post so you could get your knickers into a bunch and jump on me right???
I know that isn't what happened like it did before.

Wait. Hold the phone. I just realized something that I should spend a second on.
It is entirely possible that I may have not been clear when I wrote this post.
So in lew of that I will add what may have had to been shared much earlier.
Unlike our past encounter which was pretty clear.

I love Trump but when he set the bar on these companies to come up with the vax for the covid I feel he set the bar to high. I "feel" that he was encouraging fast results rather than good ones. That alone is why I feel like I do about it.
No data except what I have seen myself in my life. No Fox news. No Facebook posts. Just that simple fact.
Now how can I be wrong by making a choice based on my own interpretation of a situation of a fact I saw myself????
I never said that I thought others should follow my lead because i am the know all be all.
Just stop looking to be the authority on this and try to answer the question best you can if you so choose.
But arguing and insulting people isn't exactly helping your views.

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@Dainbramadge Generally speaking medical decisions are based on factual information. Or do you consult Reddit if you have a headache or break your arm?

[quote]I love Trump but when he set the bar on these companies to come up with the vax for the covid I feel he set the bar to high. I "feel" that he was encouraging fast results rather than good ones. That alone is why I feel like I do about it.[/quote]

Not sure why a declaration of love for Trumpy is necessary, but again you are just plain factually wrong. That is based on feels not facts, evidence or expert opinion. Hell even the FDA disagrees with you.

I mean if you are going to make medical decisions like this why bother with doctors at all and just treat yourself by randomly googling shit.

Dainbramadge · 56-60, M

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow You are like a car wreck. Nothing good has ever come from looking but we still feel compelled to look just the same.

See, no matter what I say, on this or the other thread, you seem to fixate on the surface of words used and not the message and comment with what appears to be malice.
You may have good information or a viewpoint you would like to share but your lack of social tact causes others to not care about what you are sharing.

I haven't gone through your profile yet but I am going to as soon as I am done writing this. I am just looking for a connection to why you treat me, or others as well, like you do.

I explained, very simply I may add, how I came about my concerns regarding the vax. You attacked me for what appears to be me having questions and not just going with the flow.

Is that what is happening? Are you intimidated by people who don't follow the group? If so why?

Are you autistic by any chance? My nephew is and he has a directness that, if you didn't know him, would seem malicious.

Either way. I know there is a better way to pose my thoughts about this vax that may have been a more accurate example of my standpoint but even if I knew how to do that I still feel you would reacted just the same. I could be wrong.
Believe it or not I am looking forward to more interactions with you. If for nothing else, the attention I receive, good or bad, is better than none.