Saying that it is probably a really bad idea to run up on someone carrying an AR15 or whatever its was.
Perhaps, but that's not a foregone conclusion. The first guy was released from the hospital that same day, following a failed suicide attempt, his second. So, it may have been a good idea for him.
As to the second and third guys, they were probably thinking: active shooter situation, and in that case, would you try to stop an active shooter? some people choose to put themselves in harm's way. It's not like we do not have our share of active shooters.
As to the shooter, not only is he not remorseful, but on Monday, he was visiting (along with his proud mother) with Trump, at his house in Friday, and Trump was helping him gloat about it.
Its not really a good idea to run up to an active shooter either.
I hope you never have to be in a situation where you have to make that decision for yourself, but suppose there's an active shooter in a school, and your options are:
1. Hope they don't target you. 2. Hope they don't target someone you care about it, or just anyone. 3. Try to do something about it to stop the carnage.
Not too long ago, an active shooter, a guy who walked into a cafeteria at my son's university, armed with intent to kill as many people as he can. He fired the first shot, instantly killing a student, one of the students (a senior working at the cafeteria) was next to him. He grabbed the rifle and wrestled the shooter to the ground, and other students piled on.
He prevented a massacre, and I for one am extremely grateful. The longest two hours of my life. When I got the text from my son: active shooter, I am in lockdown.
Only those who were there can respond to this question, and the answer is: it depends on the person's perspective. Rittenhouse was not a cop, he was not wearing special clothing, he did not have a badge, he was a guy with a rifle who just shot someone.
Or are you purposing tackling everyone with a gun just in case?
It wasn't everyone with a gun, it was anyone actively killing people, and not wearing anything identifying them as part of law enforcement.
Until he was attacked I don't believe he was shooting anyone? I could be wrong. I often am.
That's not the correct perspective. It's a dynamic situation. A few feet away, others do NOT have the proper context, and they may assume any number of scenarios. It's not like we're like the Borg and everyone is connected through a wireless neural network, giving us instant "single perspective" awareness of any situation.
BTW, "he was attacked" was actually the guy who attempted suicide a few hours earlier, throwing a small plastic bag at him, with his underwear in it (given to him by the hospital staff when they released him). But I am willing to consider, that a 17-year old may fire first and ask questions later, based on his mental condition, as in what propaganda he was exposed to prior to arriving on the scene. It's not like he was aware the guy was a child molester who spent most of his adult life in jail.
@Northwest Like you said. People are not the Borg. Are you telling me that Rittenhouse was expected to know that one of the people attacking him had mental health issues?
Is any perspective that is not yours the correct one i wonder?
@Northwest I dont really care about your system. Genuinely no offence intended. I am trying to look at this from an overall humanistic perspective. I am not choosing a side. I am stating what I see.
@Northwest I guess you're just like the majority of the Left, you didn't watch the whole video. You just watched the edited portions that the media originally put out. Which means that you didn't see the first dead guy strike first with chains before being shot, then you didn't see the second dead guy strike first with a fire extinguisher before getting shot, or the third guy aim his pistol inches from the boy's head before getting shot. Leftists never ever look at the big picture.
It's really idiotic to make assumptions and label people you don't know.
I guess you're just like the majority of the Left, you didn't watch the whole video. You just watched the edited portions that the media originally put out. Which means that you didn't see the first dead guy strike first with chains before being shot, then you didn't see the second dead guy strike first with a fire extinguisher before getting shot, or the third guy aim his pistol inches from the boy's head before getting shot. Leftists never ever look at the big picture.
the topic we are discussing. The whole Rittenhouse thing.
If you re-read my comments, you will see that I did not present a verdict. I stated that there are multiple perspectives and each one of those perspectives is valid, based on what the person knew was "true", at the they did what they did.
But I guess you decided I am not neutral, because I proposed a rational argument, rather than a regurgitated narrative?
It's a situational awareness/fog of war thing. The people who tried to interdict him later, had enough cause in the moment to think he was an active shooter who needed to be disarmed. It doesn't take much. At the same time, Rittenhouse had enough cause to defend himself with lethal force as well. Sometimes, in these screwed up situations, everyone has casus belli.
This is why Reagan was right when he banned open carry. It's explosive when combined with political unrest.
you have clear bias see @QuixoticSoul answer for how it should be done
Re-read what I said:
I stated that there are multiple perspectives and each one of those perspectives is valid, based on what the person knew was "true", at the they did what they did.
@Northwest You stated the obvious and then toted one of those perspectives. What do you want me to say? that you made an unbiased argument. Its not true, sorry. #go re-read what you wrote.