Rittenhouse Found Not Guilty on All Charges

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow If Trump gets reelected, it's going to be completely clear that Fascists can shoot protesters without fear of jailtime.

@BohemianBoo With this trial result that is already the case. The figurehead in charge doesn't matter.

This is also why the leniency in sentencing against the J6 insurrectionists is also a huge problem.

This was basically the last of the 14 characteristics (both sets) to reach in the US.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow This isn’t fascism. Not is it some sort of moral referendum. What happened doesn’t rise to the standards of the charges the state brought against him.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I don't think one trial result means we're living under Fascism now. The courts have never gotten everything right, sometimes there are terrible people who get away with murder, but murder is still illegal.
What I'm worried about is the modern GOP, which is now openly Fascist, getting back into power. Especially now that the party is going to use Rittenhouse as a symbol of what Americans must do for Trump.

@QuixoticSoul When the judge rigs the trial before it even gets underway? And this is just one last straw. Look it up yourself. The last 4 years or so is like the US has been following a "how to do fascism" instruction manual. This was just the last bit to prove you can kill people and get away with it.

This was just the last straw proving the legal system is unable or unwilling to prevent political violence. Escalation is virtually inevitable.

@BohemianBoo It is not just this trial. It is a combination of alot of things. Look up the 14 characteristics of fascism. It tracks exactly with the last 4 years and is continuing. This just was the last piece proving the legal system is incapable or unwilling to prevent political violence.

[quote]What I'm worried about is the modern GOP, which is now openly Fascist, getting back into power. Especially now that the party is going to use Rittenhouse as a symbol of what Americans must do for Trump.[/quote]

Your follow up statement seems to contradict the first part. You know the right has embraced fascism. The talking head at the top doesn't matter much at this point.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow So, you've joined the ranks who throw around convenient terms that simply reflect you didn't get what you want.

[u]In reality[/u], the prosecutors made several fatal mistakes; the system is designed for a jury of peers to make the sole decision based on the facts presented to them; the jury took their time and reviewed those facts... of the case... not of some political theory. And, the criminal justice system worked, is working, and does work.

Cry-babies who don't always get what they want and blame the system are, indeed, the problem themselves.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow The judge didn’t rig the trial, despite his theatrics. What happened is the reflection of current state of laws in the country. They aren’t new by any means. This is not a great direction of things for political discourse in this country, but ultimately that is irrelevant when it comes to any single particular case. Laws are what they are, and largely predate any of this by decades.

@MarkPaul Not at all. Just facing reality based on the facts.


Glad to see you approve of show trials and political violence getting a green light.


But we all know the motto of people like you "can't happen here".

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Sure it does. The Right can't ban freedom of speech or democracy unless they're controlling the government. Thankfully, that hasn't happened yet. Though I'm aware of how close we're getting.

@QuixoticSoul Telling the court they could only refer to the victims as criminals? That is deliberately poisoning the jury to get a specific result. That is banana republic shit.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I don't agree with the outcome of the case, but I wasn't on the jury and the people of the jury were. You want to second-guess, dismiss, and chastise anyone (and everyone) who doesn't agree with your narrow view of how you think the world should work. Tbh, that seems fascist.

@BohemianBoo Just going to point out fascist don't usually wait to get elected to power. So that is kind of a moot point. They also tend to weaponize free speech. Carl Schmidt talked about the dangers of the far right weaponizing the rights of democratic society and he later joined the NSDAP himself.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow And, that's why the jury decided the way they did? Because they didn't hear the prosecutors call the murdered people, victims?

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Referring to them as victims in a self defense trial before the guilty verdict is also prejudicial. That’s quite standard.

@MarkPaul You are seriously going to claim requiring the court to refer to his victims as arsonists, rioters, and vandals is not going to influence a jury?

Even you are not that naive.

@QuixoticSoul [quote]Referring to them as victims in a self defense trial before the guilty verdict is also prejudicial. That’s quite standard.[/quote]


But referring to them by specific criminal offenses none of them were ever charged or convicted of is not prejudicial? That is a stretch.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow You are going to admit that was the deciding factor and the only thing that worked against a conviction? Even you can't be that filled with extremist rage and stupidity. Maybe you have more in common with Kevin McCarthy than I was giving you credit for.

@MarkPaul And the denial begins again.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow This trial was centered around whether the people he shot were, in fact victims. I am not surprised that the judge drew a line there - and it’s quite standard in self defense cases.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow There goes your projection... through the roof. Dude... democracy doesn't mean only liberal judges get appointed to the courts, that only extreme liberal policies get implemented, and that only progressive liberal people get their way.

It honestly feels like you you need to reflect on why you think no one else is entitled to their points of view. Personally, I don't think you have the capacity for self-reflection, but that's still my advice to you. And, look up what democracy really means.

@QuixoticSoul Telling them to refer to them instead by terms used specifically for convicted felons instead is not standard procedure so can we stop pretending this was normal?

@MarkPaul As usual you missed the point.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow By and large, the prosecution or defense can refer to them as whatever, except for the very narrow limit because it is the very thing the trial is supposed to be determining.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow If I did, it's because your point is planted in quick-sand. Stop playing the role of the victim and leave that to the "other" idiots here think they have a victory because someone told them this "owns the libs."