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Are conservatives correct? Do parents have a right to design their children's curriculum so they'll grow up pro American?

Is that one of their rights as parents?
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JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
We all have choices.

We can choose where to live. We can choose who to elect. We can choose to serve.

Anyone can do whatever the fuck they want.

But, when you choose to live in civil society, you agree to the limits that society imposes. Adults should not be rewarded for stamping their collective feet and whining about decisions made by the rest of society.

Most of these douchebags are not making the US a better place. They just want everyone to suck it up and worsip a damn flag as if it's a goddamn religion.

Ok. Where's my flamethrower?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JoeyFoxx So keep worshipping your damn flag.

JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@sunsporter1649 you’re pathetic
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JoeyFoxx You are the one who hates the USA
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@sunsporter1649 actually, you’re the one who hate this country.

You just refuse to admit it because you’ve been indoctrinated
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JoeyFoxx And you believe that, too. Amusing. Just who is it that wants the government controlling everything, cradle to grave, in direct opposition to the Preamble to the Constitution?
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@sunsporter1649 I have no idea, but not me.

All I know is that you support the types of elected officials that are working hard to make the US a terrible place.

You demonstrate

EVERY
SINGLE
DAY

that you hate the US, based principally in the dickwads you support.

The fact that you accuse everyone of being communists is simply laughable.

But people like you should be ashamed of yourself.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@sunsporter1649 there it is
@JoeyFoxx This:
"Adults should not be rewarded for stamping their collective feet and whining about decisions made by the rest of society."
is absolutely not correct.
The Constittion grants certain individual liberties which "civil society" cannot abridge. freedom of expression and of association are among them.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@LamontCranston the Constitution says nothing about rewarding whiners.

People who use the Constitution as a weapon to defend ignorance should be shot.

Frankly.
@JoeyFoxx They do not have to be rewarded but they must be tolerated, especially if they can vote.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@LamontCranston that’s the point though.

In civil society, we vote.

We engage and try to learn about the people we vote for. We offer feedback and if they ignore our feedback, we vote them out.

But sarcastic salutes to foreign fascist governments is uncivil, immature and non-productive.

For those people that don’t like this process, perhaps they should move to another country.
@JoeyFoxx You are changing the subject. My point is simply that there are (and they will survive the present woke sickness) individual liberties.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@LamontCranston it is not I who is changing the subject. Though I suspect the point is eluding you.

Our liberties are protected, which is why we can choose to live wherever we wish. We openly choose to sacrifice small liberties fir the common good, such as what side of the road upon which to drive, where to cross a street safely, wearing clothing in public places and getting vaccinated to participate in certain activities.

I wonder, sir, if you support book banning and other liberty infringements.
@JoeyFoxx You wilfully fail to understand or are a sophist. it was I who pointed out the importance of individual liberty and how it must be protected against government and the mobs.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@LamontCranston you are willfully misrepresenting my post and brought in a red herring narrative.

The Constitution allows for a government of the people, for the people and by the people.

The OP’s topic was about curriculum and whether parents can choose.

The answer is yes… by voting.

Not by temper tantrums.

Liberty is protected by voting.

Are you defending the temper tantrums? It sounds like you are.
@JoeyFoxx Only the right to express opinions and attempt to influence policy: what you misrepresent as temper tantrums.
Liberty and voting are both good but not dependnet on each other.
Again, you engage in sophistry.
BTW, "Government of the people..." is a quote from Abraham Lincoln.
Here is a quote from the Constitution, to wit, the First Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@LamontCranston What are you trying to accomplish here?

What does your rant have to do with the original post?

Congress doesn't set school curriculum. The point of my comment was merely to address unreasonable parents at school board meetings and those same parents filing nuisance law suits. These are temper tantrums. I have misrepresented nothing.

I am not the one engaging in sophistry my friend.

Please provide examples of where liberty is being taken away.
@JoeyFoxx There was no rant. I succinctly stated my disagreement.
The First Amendment is applicable to other levels of government through the Fourteenth Amendment.
I DO suggest that those parents at school meetings and organizations like Parents Defending Education are NOT unreasonable, have a right to be heard and may well be successful.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@LamontCranston So... the woman who filed dozens of overlapping lawsuits against the local school board, who ranted on and on about critical race theory... she's reasonable?

The dudes who briefly kidnapped a principal, threatening her with bodily harm if she didn't relax mask mandates, they were reasonable?

The people performing Nazi salutes at a school board meeting... they are reasonable?

The new wave of planned book bans... all reasonable?
@JoeyFoxx The word is "principal".
You describe a small minority of parents who are frstrated by the condescension, wokeness and offensive decisions of school boards.
Why don't you go out an enjoy a golf game with Terry McAuliffe who made the most notable non-gaffe gaffe in recent history?
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@LamontCranston I was reminded today that I am not a fuckface whisperer.

So... we are done here.

(auto-correct typo corrected... thanks for that)
@JoeyFoxx I am not going to comment on your personal character.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@LamontCranston And yet you accused me of sophistry twice.

Interesting line you've drawn there.
@JoeyFoxx It may not yet have reached that point. It will only if you make sophistry part of your essential being.