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Donald Trump claims Thomas Jefferson was the principle author of the Constitution - Thoughts

“The late, great Thomas Jefferson, one of our most important Founding Fathers, and a principal writer of the Constitution of the United States, is being ‘evicted’ from the magnificent New York City Council Chamber.”

Jefferson is the principle author of the Declaration of Independence. Apparently Trump is unaware they are two different documents
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deadgerbil · 22-25
Basic history doesn't matter to Trump and the maga cult
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
@deadgerbil but this time he's correct and you're wrong.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Stopmakingsense ?

James Madison wrote the Constitution in 1787, and the Constitution is alive and well with absolutely no amendments, exclusions or alterations.
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
@Graylight yes, and famous correspondence with Jefferson exists showing the collaboration. I'm really sorry you are focussed this way.
Jefferson was a founding father of the nation, he cannot any longer be called a hero, and this probably signifies the end of the nation and the empire. But you folks attack. I know! You're the dying empire.
@Stopmakingsense When are you going to stop backing a lame horse? 😂
@Graylight Well, that's not quite right. Madison came up with the "Virginia Plan", which ended up being the main core of what came out of the Convention. There were committees which discussed various parts of the Constitution, then reported back to the "committee of the whole", and it was a group effort. Madison did not solely craft it, though he provided most of the skeleton and a fair bit of flesh...

And it has been amended, not only with what we've called the "Bill of Rights", but with a set of 17 other amendments, including one of which--the 27th, actually--was proposed along with the first ten. Also, since the final interpreter of the US Constitution is the Supreme Court of the United States (i.e., the Federal Supreme Court), there can be changes in how it is interpreted/applied.

A nice table and other info is at

[i]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution[/i]
Graylight · 51-55, F
@SomeMichGuy No, nothing is quite so easy as a simple explanation, true. And while Madison physically wrote the document, many put their soul into it. Jefferson was in France much of that time, and mail being what it was... But I get your point.

As to amendments, I dropped an [i]entire [/i]chunk of history out of my head; thanks for the correction. And while it's open to and should be interpreted for the time in which it exists, the US Constitution has never been exclusionary, has never removed rights and privileges, and has only sought to safeguard them. That's the sacred element to the document. That it should not (and so far cannot) be used as a weapon against any class or group of people. On that basis it should be protected and regarded; not because we've imbued a piece of parchment with sacred and absolute powers.
@Graylight 😊

You know, DJT could have walked...wait, who am *I* kidding?...he could have taken a golf cart over to the National Archives and checked out some of that document...
Graylight · 51-55, F
@SomeMichGuy You'd think anyone who loves the document so much would do just that.
@Graylight I have seen it a few times...the Declaration...Perot's copy of the [i]Magna Carta[/i]...

Goosebumps.