Do conservatives have to live with human rights that they don't like?

@InHeaven I'm not sure if not getting vaccinated counts as a human right though, when they put others in danger. I guess it may just be a matter of semantics but I am not so sure.

According to CDC “they put others in danger” because CDC is invested in vaccines so to make money off them they will tell you anything so you can buy their vaccine and push on others for them@SatanBurger


Yes the decision on what is injected inside ones body , poisonous, unsafe, ineffective, deadly, dangerous. Its the persons right to decide whether to take it or not.

@InHeaven then, there has to be a universal welfare payment to make working a choice.

@InHeaven Getting covid can have lasting effects of neurological disease, long term covid and yes there is such a thing, has way more of an effect on the body that pretty much is with you for life.

So for a person worried about poison you sure do gamble with your life a lot, there is no greater gamble than what you're doing, guaranteed.

At any rate, [b]https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/ [/b](got the link from another user on here) begs to differ with you 🤷‍♀️

There's no claim that the vaccines are poison, if that's the case I would be suffering by now but I'm not. I've had vaccines since I was born. At any rate, let's say what you said was true, is it more poisonous than getting Covid when the vaccine is proven to reduce the death rate of Covid?? That sounds pretty contradictive to me.

Covid is [b]contagious[/b] last time I checked, it's pretty easy to spread and it's a risk mitigated or at least lessened by a vaccine. There are breakthrough cases but a very small percentage compared to the total population.

That's not ineffective but what is effective, is the rates the unvaccinated that do die.

@Stopmakingsense I'm not an economist but universal income has always sound good to me. It seems like we got jobs now and the divide between poor and super rich is widening. That's a fact for sure. So in that sense, UBI makes more sense than trying to dish out money, then fixing poverty issues which is expensive more so than just giving out UBI in the long run. Again, I'm NOT an economist, I'm just saying that inconsistencies routinely are getting worse with our economy.

@SatanBurger getting a covid injection 💉leaves one with long lasting effects too and sometimes a coffin 🤷‍♀️ So

@InHeaven That's not because it's poison though, your claim is that the vaccine is poison, if that were true, all of the vaccinated would have died. Most don't have any symptoms at all, if there are other factors, this doesn't mean a vaccine is bad. All medication has side effects, should you not take medication you need because it may produce side effects in a small minority?

This is more based on irrational fears than anything else, just inventing reasons not to take it.

@SatanBurger socialism sounds good until u run out of other people's money

@Msharsh Yeah because acting like an infinite amount of money can be extracted from the working class, massive bailouts, recession and billionaires raking in more profits from an already massive debt from the public def. makes more sense. Genius!

@SatanBurger 28 trillion in debt --speaks for itself. How much you want to add?

@Msharsh 28 trillion in debt and socialism didn't cause that. Anything more stupid you want to add? On the other hand, if debt mattered, we would have been screwed a long time ago if that's the case, even 1 trillion would have fvcked us by now if debt was like.. a thing.

@SatanBurger socialists just want a free ride and to mooch off others

@Msharsh democracy in the economy isn't really mooching. Efficiency that frees people from work isn't stealing labor, and it's not laziness.
Social democracy is a human right.

@Msharsh [quote]Msharsh · 41-45, F
@SolveEtCoagula socialists just want a free ride and to mooch off others[/quote]

In a social democracy people still and do have jobs. I don't see how I could work and yet mooch off you at the same time when I'm the one still earning a paycheck. I'm not an economist as I said before but it stands to reason that if I'm doing my thing, I'm not mooching. But I do think that millions not having access to clean drinking water or a livable wage as the cost of living expenses go up due to something NOT in my control I may add, shouldn't be considered a "privilege" that one has to earn.

Socialism isn't a society where people just don't work or do nothing, not even in capitalism people do nothing or get things for free. Honestly, you're being silly and your precious billionaires will live, I swear to you, they'll be okay. You don't need to go cry about the person making all of the entire world's earnings, they'll be okay. Just breathe, I promise it will be fine. They won't starve.

For non-morally bankrupt people:

[b]https://www.socialistalternative.org/socialism-in-the-21st-century/how-could-socialism-work/[/b]

Also, I was trying not to mention it but you're forcing me to, out of labeling everything you see that's not capitalism as socialism but this is getting really awkward. UBI isn't anywhere near socialism and has both critics and supporters of both left and right winged parties for good reason.

Yes, some socialists support UBI but so do capitalists (for VERY different reasons.) In Finland, they are doing a trial version of UBI for unemployed workers under a right-wing coalition government. The right wingers support UBI because it would reduce govt bureaucracy by axing welfare programs and open up the free market.

In fact, UBI has been criticized as [b]"welfare for capitalists."[/b] Because when done under a right wing party, the tech companies can bring home the profits and face even less pressure to pay a living wage to non-employee employees.

Now could you stop please? Thanks.

[b]https://www.socialistparty.org.uk/articles/24401/08-02-2017/universal-basic-income-what-do-socialists-say[/b]

@Stopmakingsense I don't have any right to the fruits of others labors

@Msharsh that's not true. Bleeding to death? No right to any help? Bull.

@Stopmakingsense Yeah screw those peasants, who do they think they are? The rats 😇

@Msharsh Then you don't have any right to use the police or fire departments since they're socialist, better yet, don't put anything into social security because you'd be a hypocrite otherwise.

The postal service is also out of the question, as is any student loan or grant that you have previously put out and not paid back.

Also yeah.. pretty much don't use any public service at all because you have no right to their fruits of labor. This means when you want 911, you should stop and ask how selfish you're really being as you have no right.

[b]https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2012/3/29/1078852/-75-Ways-Socialism-Has-Improved-America[/b]