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Why do people keep claiming the Moderna & Pfizer vaccine have killed more people than Covid-19?

Besides rumors, do they have any solid evidence?
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MarineBob · 56-60, M
Die of covid- no autopsy necessary.... Die from vaccine get multiple autopsies until they find something
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@MarineBob evidence? didn't think so.
@MarineBob nah they’ll just mark it down as Covid
Australia’s third wave where most of the population is vaccinated, death rates have climbed a lot higher and alll ages
Where that hotel quarantine bungle that lead to Melbourne’s second wave last year and 800 deaths, but all of those deaths happened over the course of 5 months and all of those deaths were people 60+ but there was one death of a guy in his 30s but it was proven he didn’t due from Covid but just was a confirmed case as he died from another illness.
But how did we go from 900 to 1600 deaths within 2 months while vaccination rates are getting higher and Australia is now seeing daily infection rates but the 1000s fir the first time. We our daily counf today is just a few short of 2000 but the vax rates are climbing too. 🤔 something doesn’t add up.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@MarineBob Now we both know you are smarter than that. Anyone admitted to hospital is Covid tested on arrival and isolated (or in third world contries segregated away from non infected patients) for treatment. So they are known to have Covid. They may also have a dozen other complaints. Even Cystic Fibrosis. But they were coping with this fine until Covid. So while comorbidities with Covid are common, if they had not caught Covid they would be alive today. Therefore death is from Covid. Unless of course you want to allow my claim what not becoming fully vaccinated is a sign of a lack of intelligence and therefore anyone who has failed to get vaccinated and subsequently catches the virus and dies actually died of stupidity.. I thought not. 😷