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Why do people keep claiming the Moderna & Pfizer vaccine have killed more people than Covid-19?

Besides rumors, do they have any solid evidence?
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Oster1 · M
I will refute the accusations against me as a lier.

If a scientist has four Phd’s, that is not exact science. There will be another Scientist, with the same credentials, that would disagree.

Science is a never static fact!

It is to be argued against and continually proven against.

I have been called a liar. Why?

Why are so many convinced they are correct?
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Oster1 I don’t think you’re a liar, I’m sure you fully believe all the goofball nonsense you’ve been posting, though it’s pretty funny that you refuse to cite anything.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Oster1 The thing about science is that results are evidence based. Even things that are "theoretical" are based on observation, which can be tested and repeated by others. One recent example was the debate over tobacco smoking and cancer. Now Science "observed" the link between smoking and cancer early on. But those qualified scientists working for the tobacco companies held every yard whey could for decades saying that the link was unproven and they were right. But the observed science was that there is a link.
And treatment for almost any disease has some side effects. Asprin can cause internal bleeding. Paracetemol can cause organ failure. The body can react badly to iboprofen or Viagra. But no one disputes the overall benefits they carry with them.
Now all that is explanation as to why your position is wrong in scientific practice. And that isnt to say you are a liar. You may not be. You might indeed be like one of those "Medical Experts" who were paid by the tobacco companies for so many years to deny that link in spite of the science that had found a definite link. And while others may disagree, I personally find that to be MUCH worse than a liar, because your position kills people and you are aware of it.😷
Oster1 · M
@Oster1 Why ?? Hell, it's because you're lying. No big mystery there, numbnuts.
@whowasthatmaskedman @Stillwaiting you both are just living in ignorance and denial.
Here I’ll spoon feed you with a couple of things.

[c=BF0000] https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/15/30k-people-died-within-21-days-of-having-a-covid-19-vaccine-in-england/[/c]

[c=BF0000] https://www.koptalk.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/638813/england-30-305-people-died-within-21days-of-having-covid-vax.html[/c]

🙂
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@AwakeningConfession221122 First observation. No reputable media links. Second obervation.. Wildly differing numbers between the two sources named. Third Observation, Vaccinations can take up to a month to become effective, so at the height of a pandemic a number of recently vaccinated peoprk will ikle\ty catch the virus and get seriously ill, without the mitigating influence of the protection of the bodies innumity having developed.😷
badminton · 61-69, MVIP
@Oster1 To support a claim documented verifiable, peer-reviewed facts are needed.
@whowasthatmaskedman ok can you provide. Without mainstream news outlets like any other idiot pays attention to.
badminton · 61-69, MVIP
@AwakeningConfession221122 Mainstream news outlets are highly reliable news sources. They are not part of some grand conspiracy. Associated Press, United Press International, UK Guardian, etc., have editors and fact-checking, making them good sources of information.
@badminton yeah but not real journalists, just highly paid himbos and bimbos that read scrips like paid actors do. dirty old pervs like yourselves would most likely fap over some of the fauxjournalist actresses. But that’s how their lies suck you in and breed ignorance.
Oster1 · M
@Stillwaiting You would never say that to me
Oster1 · M
@AwakeningConfession221122 Thank you! I stand with you too!
@Oster1 Obtaining evidence that these trolls would find to be acceptable is going to be impossible. They would demand scientific evidence, not statistics. But you can’t get scientific evidence from any research laboratory against ANY vaccine. Congress made sure that big pharma cannot be sued should side effects occur from a vaccine. So any lab that did come up with proof positive that a vaccine was killing people would never get a day in court and would be run out of business by an industry that is in perfect lock step with the powers that be. These are the facts that the sheep turn a blind eye to repeatedly. Willingly. But the blind often always think they know everything. Don’t waste your time on these fools.
@Oster1 got ya back bro. It’s always the usual suspects isn’t it 😂🤣😂