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Why do people keep claiming the Moderna & Pfizer vaccine have killed more people than Covid-19?

Besides rumors, do they have any solid evidence?
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Abstraction · 61-69, M
Actually I have the evidence. It was a meeting of a small group of people in 2018:
CHAIR: Ok, the best and simplest way to achieve world socialism (or insert your own wacko conspiracy idea here) is to start a fake pandemic.
MEDIA PERSON: Great idea. Of course need to get the media on board. Virtually all of them. Without any of them disagreeing. Of course, we just threaten to sack them. That's all it takes. Most of them are socialists anyway. We control all the media - except of course Breitbart and Fox and a few others.
SCIENCE PERSON: Yeah, same with 99% of the world's scientists. They don't care about truth. They just want money for research. They don't care if it's fake. Offer them cash for fake research on the pandemic and they won't say a word to anyone. We can fake all the statistics about causes of deaths - no-one will question it.
MEDIA PERSON: Well - except those people on Facebook. There are a few really clever people with integrity on Facebook who might see through us.
MEDICAL PERSON: Well, we've already cooked up a special mind control drug. Why don't we release virus and then we'll innoculate people with our secret recipe (11 herbs and spices, it's not simple) to control everyone.
OTHER PERSON: How we gonna tell hundreds of thousands of journalists and scientists and everyone and keep them updated with all the changes and what to do next without sending a memo or an email or anything?
CHAIR: Please stay on topic.
GOVERNMENT PERSON: Good job! Well, all the world's governments will go along with this too. We control them.
OTHER PERSON: Hey, if we already control all these people, why do we need a fake pandemic?
Quetzalcoatlus · 46-50, M
@Abstraction So none then 😂