Why do people keep claiming the Moderna & Pfizer vaccine have killed more people than Covid-19?
Besides rumors, do they have any solid evidence?
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Neoerectus · M
from NIH..
"Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 390 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September 27, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 8,164 reports of death (0.0021%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. "
These are ASSOCIATIVE and not necessarily causative. I cant find it now, but a article I read weeks ago narrowed the numbers down with likely other causes for all but about 2,000 as I recall. Most vaccines have similar reactions or interactions with comorbidities, etc .
These are low numbers with 390,000,000 as the divisor.
"Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 390 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September 27, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 8,164 reports of death (0.0021%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. "
These are ASSOCIATIVE and not necessarily causative. I cant find it now, but a article I read weeks ago narrowed the numbers down with likely other causes for all but about 2,000 as I recall. Most vaccines have similar reactions or interactions with comorbidities, etc .
These are low numbers with 390,000,000 as the divisor.
ElwoodBlues · M
@Neoerectus Yep,VAERS collects all vaccine "events." So all deaths a short time after vaccine are reported to VAERS, regardless of whether they're caused by vaccine. Thus it's a strong upper bound (worst case estimate) on vaccine deaths.
And when you do the math, the worst case estimage works out to 21 deaths per million. The 1% death rate of Covid is 10,000 deaths per million. So in the worst case, the vaccine is still 500X safer than the vaccine.
And when you do the math, the worst case estimage works out to 21 deaths per million. The 1% death rate of Covid is 10,000 deaths per million. So in the worst case, the vaccine is still 500X safer than the vaccine.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@Neoerectus the deaths from covid are low as well
Neoerectus · M
@MrBrownstone 700,000 seems a bit high to me.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@Neoerectus a half percent of us population
Neoerectus · M
Population eugenics aficionado, huh?
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