Why do people keep claiming the Moderna & Pfizer vaccine have killed more people than Covid-19?
Besides rumors, do they have any solid evidence?
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Neoerectus · M
from NIH..
"Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 390 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September 27, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 8,164 reports of death (0.0021%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. "
These are ASSOCIATIVE and not necessarily causative. I cant find it now, but a article I read weeks ago narrowed the numbers down with likely other causes for all but about 2,000 as I recall. Most vaccines have similar reactions or interactions with comorbidities, etc .
These are low numbers with 390,000,000 as the divisor.
"Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 390 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September 27, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 8,164 reports of death (0.0021%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. "
These are ASSOCIATIVE and not necessarily causative. I cant find it now, but a article I read weeks ago narrowed the numbers down with likely other causes for all but about 2,000 as I recall. Most vaccines have similar reactions or interactions with comorbidities, etc .
These are low numbers with 390,000,000 as the divisor.
ElwoodBlues · M
@Neoerectus Yep,VAERS collects all vaccine "events." So all deaths a short time [i]after[/i] vaccine are reported to VAERS, regardless of whether they're [i]caused by[/i] vaccine. Thus it's a strong upper bound (worst case estimate) on vaccine deaths.
And when you do the math, the worst case estimage works out to 21 deaths per million. The 1% death rate of Covid is 10,000 deaths per million. So in the worst case, the vaccine is still 500X [i]safer[/i] than the vaccine.
And when you do the math, the worst case estimage works out to 21 deaths per million. The 1% death rate of Covid is 10,000 deaths per million. So in the worst case, the vaccine is still 500X [i]safer[/i] than the vaccine.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@Neoerectus the deaths from covid are low as well
Neoerectus · M
@MrBrownstone 700,000 seems a bit high to me.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@Neoerectus a half percent of us population
Neoerectus · M
Population eugenics aficionado, huh?
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