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idk if y'all realize this, but trump just flipped on ending the Afghanistan War in the most weasely way possible.

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[quote]We coulda stayed there for ten years if we wanted. They couldn't have done a damn thing. We ran. I think he wanted to run because he wanted to look good today. And I wanted that ended more than anyone and for a longer period of time. We shoulda never been there, frankly. We shoulda never gotten into that quicksand. Trillions of dollars, millions of lives if you look at both sides [erroneous]. But if you get out, you have to get out with honor, dignity, strength, and victory. We woulda had victory. And he turned victory into a total embarrassment.[/quote]

In other words, we stay in until we achieve victory over the Taliban. 🤦‍♂️ So the goal under the Obama Administration, right? Just stay in there another decade, hope we'll finally have victory then. The man has no principles, but we knew that already.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
It's the essential contradiction of Trumpist foreign policy; have the cake and eat it.

It's the jingoism, machismo, and American exceptionalism of the Bush neo-cons but also whilst being kind of against wars. Because this happened under Biden, the Republicans are able to wash over the contradictions (and disagreements) within their ranks. Though obviously, it's disingenuous.

If Trump was still President, the same thing would have happened. He would have been getting the same advice from the same generals and had the same timetable. The same problems would have been incurred and the liberals would have been attacking him (from the right) on this issue. Tiresome arguments about doing Putin's bidding would have resurfaced.

Trump would have (fairly imo) blamed Obama and Bush for the war but knowing him would have probably tried to shift blame by throwing generals and intelligence officials under the bus. That is something Biden wouldn't do.

Trump is actually more anti-war than most US Presidents and he is less bad on foreign policy than the likes of Hilary Clinton. Though obviously, he is also a complete bullshitter and there are multiple other huge reasons to think he is terrible.