Face it, Democrats, Joe Biden will wind up a lower-tier president.

It doesn't matter his intentions, whether he was "right" about something in the long run, or what's in his heart. Joe Biden will be a mostly forgotten president. No different than Jimmy Carter, Or George HW Bush. That's not saying Trump would have been better in a second term - clearly Biden was a better choice here - I'm just saying a pile of crap was replaced with a pile of rocks.

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MistyCee

Biden inherited problems far worse then HW Bush or Carter politically and I never expected him to make much real progress because of it.

Those guys actually had most of the country wanting them to succeed unlike today where there's substantial efforts to sabotage things regardless of the costs to the country.

Then there's Covid. I'm not going to say I think Biden is doing great, but he's hanging on and really does seem to be trying not to further divide the country.