Where is the evidence that most deaths in the USSR were caused by Operation Barbarossa?

I don't buy that most of the deaths in the USSR were caused by the Nazis. That's just a non-sensical talking point designed to whitewash the legitimate brutal history of the USSR. We get it, you're offended that nobody trusts communism.

We have a good reason to. It's always brought dictatorship. Why do you need to make up stories about Nazis being the major cause of deaths just to make excuses for the failed system that communism is?

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DownTheStreet · 56-60, M

Stalin starved 20 million or so after the war … in the name democratic socialism and communism of course

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@DownTheStreet Ostensibly in the name of socialism and communism, but really just so he could tighten his grasp on the country.

DownTheStreet · 56-60, M

@LordShadowfire so goes the way of one party systems

MickRogers · 26-30, M

@LordShadowfire Nope. Truly in the name and practicality of communism.

I'd rather be on the side of Imperialists and Fascists because at least they're less dishonest about their plans.

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@MickRogers Okay, so you're not going to listen to anybody but your own voices.

QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M

@DownTheStreet The famines were before the war, and nowhere near twenty million died.

MickRogers · 26-30, M

@LordShadowfire Says who?

I just don't buy your No True Scotsman Fallacy. It's just as moronic as someone claiming the US isn't truly capitalist because of its lack of a totally free market.

You don't get to claim every single time Communism was tried, that it just wasn't genuine, just because it happened to be dictatorial. Nowhere in Karl Marx's writings does it say that authoritarianism makes the system anti-communist.

DownTheStreet · 56-60, M

@MickRogers trusting a government to plan an entire economy and society is pure lunacy, it never ever works.