8 months for attacking the capital....

@SumKindaMunster Congress was attempting to carry out their constitutional duty of counting the electoral votes. The riot disrupted that.

@LeopoldBloom Uh huh. Those bastards. How could they???

@SumKindaMunster Yeah, no big deal because some black guys rioted in Philly, which was much worse. Sentencing should be based on how scared you are and if you agree with the rioters politically or not.

Disrupting Congress should be punished 1000x worse than breaking a window and stealing a TV.

@LeopoldBloom So after 4 plus years of sparring Shoes of Wandering, George Washington Jr, Hazel Motes, this is the one thing you remember about me huh? I guess it's better than nothing. 🤷‍♂️

I look forward to you constantly repeating it when you get stuck....🙄

@SumKindaMunster Should I catalog your other fascist-adjacent positions?

@LeopoldBloom Don't change a thing. I look forward to hearing it every time you get stuck. 👍

@SumKindaMunster You can't clutch your pearls over the George Floyd riots, while dismissing the 1/6 riot with a hand wave and expect to not come across as a partisan fool.

I think everyone who riots should be punished. But if you think black guys stealing shoes from a Target are worse than white guys disrupting Congress, at least admit it.

Imagine that Trump had won a second term, and the exact same riot had taken place, only it was BLM and "antifa." I'm sure you wouldn't be shrugging your shoulders and saying "boys will be boys." You'd be asking why the Capitol police didn't machine-gun them the moment they got close to the doors.

@LeopoldBloom [quote]Imagine that Trump had won a second term, and the exact same riot had taken place, only it was BLM and "antifa.[/quote]

Actually, per Time magazine, the plan was to have riots in over 400 cities to "protest" his re-election.

https://time.com/magazine/us/5936018/february-15th-2021-vol-197-no-5-u-s/

[quote]More than 150 liberal groups, from the Women’s March to the Sierra Club to Color of Change, from Democrats.com to the Democratic Socialists of America, joined the “Protect the Results” coalition. The group’s now defunct website had a map listing 400 planned postelection demonstrations, to be activated via text message as soon as Nov. 4. To stop the coup they feared, the left was ready to flood the streets.[/quote]

Meanwhile you're obsessed with Bluto and the rest of Delta House cuz they put their dirty shoes on Nancy Pelosi's desk.....🙄

@SumKindaMunster And if people had rioted in response to a Trump win, they should have been arrested. But not if they demonstrated peacefully, as they did when Traitor Tot won the first time. Not that you can tell the difference. Anyone questioning orange Jesus might as well be Ho Chi Minh.

Yes, I'm obsessed with Nazis who tried to overturn a legitimate election, just like you're obsessed with Black teenagers stealing shoes.

@LeopoldBloom [quote]Yes, I'm obsessed with Nazis who tried to overturn a legitimate election[/quote]

I know buddy, it's tough. Hey, in case you haven't heard, the latest is the divide between vaccinated and unvaccinated so you might want to plug back into the hive mind for further programming.

While you are at it, can you expand on the "plot to overturn the legitimate election"? How was that going to work? So the Trump people take over the Capital building... and then what? We just pledge our fealty to the bison hat guy? I'm missing the detail. Considering TPTB are pretending to investigate this, maybe you can let me know?

@SumKindaMunster Why don't you tell us how horrible it is that some businesses are firing workers who refuse to get vaccinated, and how there should be a law against that, along with a law preventing schools from requiring students to wear masks? You people are the ones making that an issue with your crybaby "I don't wanna get poked" attitude.

If the insurrection had been successful (i.e. killing a few Congress members), Trump would have had an excuse to declare martial law and postpone Biden's inauguration. The president isn't officially "elected" until Congress certifies the electoral vote. If you think Trump would have voluntarily stepped down on Jan. 20 and handed the presidency to Nancy Pelosi, you're very naive.

What's the point? You were probably watching the hearings yesterday and calling those cops drama queens. "Meh, it was just a rowdy tour group."

@LeopoldBloom [quote]If the insurrection had been successful (i.e. killing a few Congress members), Trump would have had an excuse to declare martial law and postpone Biden's inauguration.[/quote]

Ah, that's what you guys are pushing. Thanks.

So where is the evidence of this plot? Like, written documented evidence or sworn affidavits?

[quote]You were probably watching the hearings yesterday[/quote]

Ha ha ha, no. Remember I am not in thrall to the MSM, I don't pay fealty to the TV when they demand it. 😂

@SumKindaMunster We're going to find out why Trump waited several hours to send in the National Guard after the riot started. Not that you care. Trump egged the Nazi contingent on for months by claiming the election was fraudulent, with no evidence other than the fact that he lost.

If I tell your neighbor that someone is fucking his wife while he's at work, and after a few months of this, when he's gotten really worked up, I tell him that his wife is cheating on him with you, and he beats you up, do I have any responsibility for that? Or I'm innocent because I didn't touch you myself?

@LeopoldBloom [quote]We're going to find out why Trump waited several hours to send in the National Guard after the riot started[/quote]

Answer below, from another poster in another thread:


[quote](Military Times)
Hundreds of National Guard troops were posted in the streets of Washington, D.C., on Wednesday afternoon, but there was little they could do to respond as pro-Trump rioters overran the Capitol.
Investigations are imminent, to determine whether the Capitol Police were undermanned and unprepared for the threat posed by two days of rallies against the results of the 2020 election, but the answer as to why troops posted blocks away were unable to respond to the siege is as simple ― or as complicated ― as a morass of bureaucracy.
Simply put, the National Guard only shows up to D.C. when they’ve been invited, and the Capitol Police did not extend that invitation until after the breach, according to a source with knowledge of the process, who was not authorized to speak about it on the record.

The several hundred troops posted around downtown D.C. on Wednesday were there at the request of Mayor Muriel Bowser, to support local police.
“We had worked out that the support we were providing the [Metropolitan] Police Department would be on traffic control points,” the source said, including downtown subway stations and select blocks, where teams of two Guardsmen and several vehicles were keeping the streets clear of cars.
Bowser put in a request for support Dec. 31, Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy told reporters on Thursday.
The Defense Department was in contact with Capital Police ahead of Tuesday and Wednesday’s protests, Kenneth Rapuano, the assistant defense secretary for homeland defense, told reporters during a press call on Thursday. They asserted that they would not be requesting National Guard support, he said.

DCNG announced Monday it had mobilized 340 troops to support MPD, but that organization’s jurisdiction does not cover any federal land within the District, and so its officers ― and its Guard support ― could not have just rushed to the Capitol.
Further, once they got there, Guard troops who had been acting in a traffic control capacity, not as law enforcement, would not have been able or authorized to forcibly push back rioters or help clear the building, a task that fell to the Capitol Police and the FBI tactical forces they requested to help out.
So when chaos unfolded Wednesday afternoon and reports surfaced that there had been a request for additional Guard troops and the Defense Department had denied it, here’s what really happened.
Because of D.C.’s finicky federal status, any entity ― whether its the mayor, or the Interior Department, which controls federal parks within the District ― has to put in a request for National Guard troops through the Army secretary, who gets it endorsed by the defense secretary.
The Capitol’s request for Guard back-up went beyond what Bowser had already gotten approved, so it needed a new sign-off.
“We quickly worked to move our resources forward in support of Metro PD and the Capitol Police,” McCarthy said Thursday.
The process took about an hour, the source familiar told Military Times, from the time McCarthy received it around 2 p.m. on Wednesday.
“We wanted to make sure, based off what we saw developing, that that was an acceptable use, all the way up to the SECDEF, which didn’t take long,” the source said, including about half an hour spent relaying the request to acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller.

It was 3:36 p.m. when White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany tweeted that President Donald Trump had directed the activation of more troops. Technically, Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman told reporters on Thursday, the president had given Miller the green light to call up National Guard days earlier.
Alternative reports asserted that Miller had spoken with Vice President Mike Pence about the decision. But that would have been more of a courtesy to keep the White House informed, the source familiar told Military Times, not a request for permission.
At 3:52 p.m., Hoffman tweeted that Miller had mobilized more D.C. Guard to respond, a characteristic sequence of announcements during an administration during which the Pentagon has been reluctant to speak before the White House, despite having the lead on decision-making.
Once activated, the D.C. Guardsmen made their way to the armory, where they donned protective gear, loaded up vehicles and made their way to the Capitol. They were there before a mandatory curfew began at 6 p.m., and stayed into the night to perform crowd control on protestors who refused to pack it in.
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@SumKindaMunster So if it was Trump, Bowser, or some other person who wasted even a minute deploying them when the rioters breached the Capitol, they need to be held accountable. And that is one question these hearings will answer. I'm interested in whether the delay was due to incompetence, or deliberate. Of course, if you think the riot was just a tour group that got a little rowdy, then there was no need to send in the National Guard at all as the Capitol police were capable of handling it. But some of us were horrified at the assault on one of our most sacred institutions - our electoral process.

If it had been up to me, I would have machine-gunned those Nazi fuckers the moment they broke through the doors.