Veganism has the unassailable moral high ground. Change my mind.
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CopperCicada · M
The diet that has the least impact on ecosystems and the smallest number of sentient beings harmed is hunter-gathering because it is in dynamic balance with natural surplusses. One is literally picking fruit or nuts off trees, insects off plants, taking animals before their natural predators. The natural diet of the indigenous people here was mostly snails and acorns. Not its brought in on trucks.
Go off the hunting gathering cycle and one is perturbing the natural patterns of surplus. One majorly does that farming animals to great suffering to them and ecological disaster. But mass farming things like soy, wheat has a similar impact though smaller in scale. Kill alot of animals to keep the corn, alot to bring it in.
The problem is that the population density cant support hunting gathering. Especially given how we have fucked nature. All of our subsistence is in a nonequilibrium state now.
Go off the hunting gathering cycle and one is perturbing the natural patterns of surplus. One majorly does that farming animals to great suffering to them and ecological disaster. But mass farming things like soy, wheat has a similar impact though smaller in scale. Kill alot of animals to keep the corn, alot to bring it in.
The problem is that the population density cant support hunting gathering. Especially given how we have fucked nature. All of our subsistence is in a nonequilibrium state now.
@CopperCicada
[quote]The problem is that the population density cant support hunting gathering.
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Yeah i was gonna say lol
We've artificially expanded carrying capacity and unless we want to cull humanity we're going to have to make compromises with the environment.
[quote]The problem is that the population density cant support hunting gathering.
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Yeah i was gonna say lol
We've artificially expanded carrying capacity and unless we want to cull humanity we're going to have to make compromises with the environment.
CopperCicada · M
@Pikachu Yea. The question is really how to be the least in disequilibrium. And I suspect that will have local variations. It probably makes sense to go dart an orca and eat it for a year than try to ship in vegan nuggets and salads to the Inuit. I don’t think it’s a clear cut as vegan/nonvegan. I suspect it is also individually specific.