Veganism has the unassailable moral high ground. Change my mind.

@JohnRing

We already live in an era of highly processed foods.🤷‍♀️

@Pikachu I don’t. I like to cook from scratch. All these vegan processed meat and dairy substitutes can’t be great for you. Remember trans fats in hydrogenated oil?

Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s a good movement but being the self proclaimed moral high ground is troubling. And this is the one of the few indefensible aspect of it

@JohnRing


And to a large degree you still could if you went vegan. Even easier if you just went vegetarian.



I'm sure some are and some aren't. Same with any other food.

@JohnRing

I don't see why that should be troubling. The fact that we should not cause animals to suffer where we don't need to seems unambiguously and uncontroversially to be the superior moral position.

@Pikachu generally people who proclaim to be more moral or the chosen people turn out to be Nazis or Death Cults or religions or despots, etc

@JohnRing

Lol did you just Godwin's law this?

@JohnRing Cooking from scratch isn't an option for many people.

@SomeAreBoojums I'm not a vegan and I'm not saying that all domesticated animals should be set free, but I'd like to ask why they would suffer from slow starvation? Dogs, perhaps depending on the breed, but most of our farmed animals are herbivores. They would have other issues, but I can't see how starvation would be one of them.

I'm not trying to be critical or have a go at you, just interested in your thinking on this. Perhaps I'm missing something.