Universal Health Care is a right.

@lynncelestial So that you tackle by taxing and regulating the people who profit out of selling lard sandwiches and a bucket of sugared water for 99 cents.

@lynncelestial maybe you tax the executives and owners of McDonald's who are profiting from making products that are harmful to our health more. Why are corporations allowed to soak up all of the profits without paying for the side effects their businesses lead to? Everyone gets dragged down while a small handful of people get rich.

@whowasthatmaskedman No, you don't. Nobody is forcing you to buy lard sandwiches.

@ViciDraco No one is forcing anyone to buy mcdonalds. If you chose to buy it, they deserve the profit. You made the choice to 1. go to mcdonalds, then 2. make the order 3. eat it all. It can stop before 1.

@lynncelestial Like it or not, insurance schemes - whether public or private, subsidized or not, spread risk across large pools. That’s the whole point. You’re paying for all the people of Walmart insured by the same insurer right now, and they’re paying for you.

Universal healthcare just makes the math more favorable and predictable.

@QuixoticSoul Good point. It is not working when Wal-Mart can calculate a poverty wage to pay their employees so the government is on the hook for their healthcare and making sure they don't starve.

@HeilHitler heaven forbid we ask the economy to serve humanity rather than keep the system where humanity serves the economy.

@QuixoticSoul Yeah, I'm not really a fan of the insurance model, either.
I think the answer is to make individual healthcare, actual individual healthcare, cheaper by lowering taxes.
Before the medical companies even make any money, 60% of the doctor's wages have to be taxed, 20% on any products bought, 20% when selling, 20% on shipping and shipping material and so on. Adds up to a crazy amount.

@lynncelestial you are either exaggerating for a straw man or have no idea how taxes work.

@ViciDraco And what's this "strawman"?

@ViciDraco Both.

@lynncelestial That is very much the American way. Everyone has freedoms for themselves. But no one has to accept responsibilities for others. Caviet Emptor or go to hell.

@lynncelestial that taxes are making things expensive because they are so high. By falsifying how high taxes are, you are making it easier to attack taxes as a negative for society.

@ViciDraco I'm not falsifying how high taxes are, there are over 200,000 forms of tax. A landlord can't even allow his tenant to keep a pet without it being taxed.

@lynncelestial Taxes are not why modern medical care is so expensive, that’s a vast oversimplification. The insurance model of healthcare is in use all over the world because the system you think you want is completely untenable.

Modern healthcare runs on highly trained professionals and extremely expensive equipment. That’s why we spread the costs around, and there is no easy way to get around that without going back to some turn of the century model where the family doctor with no equipment does everything.

@QuixoticSoul Not to mention if it was tied to taxes the US would pay less than say Canada. The exact opposite is true.