Yeah, here's the thing. That famous "let's use bleach and strong light" conference didn't include Fauci. Neither did any conference. For months. He was uninvited.
And let's clear something up: Fauci did not say “masks don’t work.”
During an interview with CBS’ “60 Minutes” in March 2020, Fauci actually said that “masks are important for someone who’s infected to prevent them from infecting someone else.” But he added that face masks generally do not provide the “perfect protection” from getting infected “that people think” and so “there’s no reason to be walking around with a mask.”
Fauci still said he was “not against” anyone wearing a mask “if you want to do it.” Although, he warned that if everyone wore them it “could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it,” particularly health care providers and people who were ill.
His comments were in line with CDC guidance at the time to conserve face masks for health care workers and those who had COVID-19 and had symptoms. (source: https://www.factcheck.org/2021/02/scicheck-video-wrong-about-fauci-covid-19/)
@Aliveshock Insertion would redirect the topic, complicate or obfuscate the topic. A passing reference - a nod, if you will - to the promoted and well-known religious right is not "insertion of religion." You, sir, are deflecting. If you need it, I've got a mirror.
That isn't "enabling", and Fauci said as much as he could to try to keep bringing the information up to snuff and the conversation at least near the rails if not back on track...
@SomeMichGuy Fauci might as well not been there because when it was compelling for him to stand up for the vulnerable of the country; he kept quiet. He didn’t downright lie like Birx but his silence was deafening especially when he knew from the very beginning that it was more than a flu and air transmissible. We would have worn masks much sooner. I attribute that directly to Fauci. But he does have people to make excuses for him now.
@Aliveshock Fauci took the Hyppocratic oath. A physician is first to do no harm.
Which do you think would do more harm:
• telling off the Pres. & his lie squad, creating a furor for a few days, and very likely being replaced by a lying yes-man; this would have removed Fauci from the directorship of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), one of the "national institutes" which collectively comprise the NIH, and removed his authority, access, etc., and would have effectively taken him off the board in a very trying time for which he has studied & worked for MANY years...
OR
• stay, take some blowback from Trump, but continue to have an important position of his own from which to have a consistent, clear, simple message; this would preserve his institutional knowledge, contacts/network, his access to info & other peers/coworkers around the world, and give him.an independent power base from which to counter Trump, his lying "press" secretary, etc.
??
I think he looked at what would be most likely to do harm to his patients, the entire nation, and he chose to swallow his pride/vanity, and show us not only truth, but to do so with professionalism, ethics, and showing people what an ethical, professional person *could* do, as well as representing reason & an active, ongoing scientific investigation.
Again, be an armchair critic, but Fauci took that oath and I believe he stood by it.
@SomeMichGuy There is no need to insult me as an armchair critic! You don’t deserve that liberty my friend. Fauci knew in January 2020 that the disease was transmitted through the air and said NOTHING but let trump press his disinformation further. It took so long for the public to understand the nature of this disease and that is FULLY Fauci’s responsibility which he totally failed.
@Baremine People devote their lives to saving the lives of others, and you believe that is wrong. The freedom you believe in is absolute freedom to do as you please without consequence. No wonder the US is abdicating its leadership role in world affairs with people who believe as you do and lack education and understanding.
SW-User
What's so difficult to understand? No one is allowed to interrupt a President while he's either giving a press conference or addressing the nation. Why would you expect them to be any different from anyone else and commit political suicide? Do you think we would have been better off with another Trump puppet in place of those two?
@SW-User trump deserves all of the glory for his attempted coup of democracy and the number of dead bodies didn’t matter. Fauci didn’t stand up and he acquiesced as Birx kissed the toes of the executive. It is quite possible he is missing a couple of stones and is safe now. In the meantime over 550k dies that he could have helped prevent but didn’t. It is that simple.
@SW-User It is the responsibility for Fauci to protect the U.S. from infectious diseases and also keep our country from the politics of the day. There was NO cohesive strategy on masks even though other countries practiced masking from the very beginning. He only had to observe what other doctors told their countries. Bob Woodward revealed just before the election that trump knew exactly what we were facing. An infectious disease beyond any we had faced previously and one that needed the guidance of a medical professional of integrity. Dr. Fauci or Birx do not deserve that credit at any level. None! Dr. Fauci knew since January 2020 of the hazard we were up against and did not sound the alarm. Anyone that doesn’t think that both doctors and CDC fell flat on their face is ignoring the evidence, pure and simple!
@Aliveshock But so what? He said a dumb thing. He lost the election. He's yesterday's news. It's irrelevant to anything happening today. Why even bother about it?
