But we're the radicals

@MistyCee Maybe he is just a bad person. But you should remember the left has never done anything bad in their entire existence they are literally angels and you should worship them at every chance you get

@TheRascallyOne Yeah, I've heard that and it's not something I'm likely to embrace.

It's a Whatabout, IMO, and whether the SLA or the IRA also did bad things, shouldn't, IMO, make much difference.

@MistyCee Truth is I don't think that the media cares for peace they make more money by selling hate

@TheRascallyOne Its a for-profit business and I think it mostly all about clicks, viewers and selling advertising. Fox and Murdoch's tabloids, IMO are the most egregious examples of it, but the others just have different audiences with different viewing habits, IMO.

That's always been a much easier sell to me than a conspiracy of rich media owners trying to brainwash the world for some secret nefarious goals other than making money.

@MistyCee No, it illustrates how dangerous and unhinged they are.

@bijouxbroussard How does calling him a conservative demonstrate how dangerous and unhinged he is (or they are)?

@MistyCee Let’s see. Perhaps the fact that his actions, like that of the Capitol rioters, was in support of conservative politics ?

Do you remember how many people (especially our conservatives) were demanding that mainstream Muslims needed to publicly disavow the actions of groups like ISIS and Al-Qaeda if they didn’t want to be blamed for every act of terrorism committed by those individuals ?

So calling these people “patriots” as several have done, is hardly denouncing or disavowing what continues to be done in the name of the right-wing.

@bijouxbroussard So, what you're saying is that Conservatives' failure to denounce violence in support of their politics illustrates how dangerous and unhinged Conservatives are? (I guess maybe especially since they called out Muslims (and liberals) for doing something similar).

I sort of agree a little with what you're saying, if that's what you're saying.

@MistyCee Yes. All groups have their extremists. The fact that only a few conservative factions seem to be standing up to them (Lincoln Project and RVAT, two good examples) is troubling. And when those encouraging the extremists are lawmakers and our president—that’s actually rather scary. 😳

@bijouxbroussard Former President?

@MistyCee At the time the assault occurred, and Trump incited it, he was a sitting president. And his conservative party, who once voted to impeach a president for lying about a consensual affair with an intern, are going to let a violent assault on their colleagues pass. And calling the people who did it “patriots” ?
I’m still trying to wrap my mind around that. 😞

@bijouxbroussard You and me both. The only way I can reconcile that, really, is that the Republican party has become the Trump party, standing only for itself without regard to any other loyalties or principles.

I'm hoping that the Trump Putsch was a wake up call to a lot of Republicans, but honestly, what I'm seeing is much more of a repetition of the same old same old routine:

Yeah, Nazis and klansman. ...
Wait, someone got hurt? Optics are bad?...
Its unfortunate, but there were fine people on both sides....
Wait, that's not what I said, or I was taken out of context....
Whew, that was close. But we won. We're on record saying we condemn the people who think we're on their side....
Now, let's move on to something else.

@MistyCee Yes, exactly. Same sh*t, different day. They didn’t learn a thing, and are free to try again. And fools like the one in the OP’s post feel vindicated.
Meanwhile, Trump brags that he’s “more popular than ever”. 🙄

@bijouxbroussard It is exhausting, but the fact that Trump is no longer in the White House and doesn't even have a twitter account are good things. His capacity for "mischief" (evil if you like) is dramatically reduced, and without his megaphone and ability to grant favors and punish enemies, I think the Republican party may well be able to separate itself from him more and more.

I'm confident that a lot of Republican leaders want that, and if, I as I suspect, litigation against Trump finally goes forward and criminal charges against those more directly involved in the Putsch are brought, I'll bet even more will stop kissing his ring and goose stepping.

@MistyCee I disagree with your opinion about trump I feel like he was the most targeted person in the media they didn't even go after George Bush that way. However both Democrat and republicans had a lot of chances to denounce violence This last year

@TheRascallyOne
I actually do agree with you on this one. Sure, I think he deserves to be targeted, but beyond that, Trump bashing proved incredibly lucrative for the folks that did it, like MSNBC, CNN, WashPo and the NYTimes.

@MistyCee I wish he would have sued them for defamation of character or just slander

@MistyCee Yes, but Trump brought the media attention on himself, commenting negatively, even on issues that didn’t affect his work. His advisers urged him to stop tweeting from the very beginning, but he ignored them. When Trump declared the media “the enemy of the American people”, he actually put their lives in danger. George W. Bush, for all the mistakes he did make, never did that.

@TheRascallyOne Defamation of character,?

Good luck with that. Trump seems to, despite having threatened thousands of frivolous suits and settled or declaring bankruptcy to avoid getting sued, having been smart enough never to have asked a jury to make a decision based on his character.

The guys really good with the media, even the so called hostile media, because he can't be forced to answer yes or no questions under oath or undergo cross-examination about a lifetime of dishonesty.

Btw, I took a potshot on the character thing, but slander is just oral defamation while libel is written, and Trump could reasonably only hope to recover for personal or character defamation because even if damage to his business was actionable in somr jurisdiction, he's got nothing to damage.

Deutchebank, the lender of last resort for criminals has said it's done with him.

Even his credit as a good con man is wearing thin now that he's expanded his racket to voters and lost.

@MistyCee cnn on multiple occasions called him a white supremacist

@bijouxbroussard Trump, though, unlike W, was a media manipulator long before he got into politics.

I don't think it's as simple as saying that he ignored good advice from his advisors and attacked the media. He got where he was by using the media in the first place and drawing a ratings circus to his lie-filled rallies with thousands of hate-driven morons and it's hard to say he screwed up by dropping a con that was still working.

The big lie really is his forte, along with showing no respect for other human beings, and he's pretty much screwed himself whenever he did a hostage video reading from a script and pretending to be a halfway decent human being.

@TheRascallyOne Yup, and my guess is they backed it up on every occasion with evidence that they thought supported their assertions, even if it rang hollow with Trumpists who bought his believe only me and everyone else is lying garbage.


Not to say they're right, and maybe they're desperate to apply reason over faith, of course.

There's no point arguing, IMO with those who resort to faith and belief over reason.

@TheRascallyOne No. He was said to support white supremacists, which he's done. He was said to have aligned himself with them, which he did. CNN had guests who called him a white supremacist, but I challenge you one time to find an anchor representing the network using that language.

And yes, Bush got extraordinary coverage.

And when words are in one's own writing and speech, it's never defamation or slander.

@Graylight CNN will say anything they don't even fact check themselves there literally the most biassed organisation America has ever seen

@TheRascallyOne Yeah, you said that. Now I'm asking for a single tangible example.