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Women have all the control when it comes to becoming a parent. Should men have the right to opt out of parental responsibility?

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Muthafukajones · 46-50, M
I think that if a man is willing to irrevocable give up parental rights he should absolutely have the right to be relived of responsibility for children especially if he is not married to the woman.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Muthafukajones So a man can get 10 women pregnant and if he signs over his parental rights, he has no responsibility for any of those children? Seriously?
@Muthafukajones And if a woman wants to abandon her family and let the father raise the kid, you're OK with that, too? So basically you think parents should be able to abandon their kids and let the taxpayer make up the difference through welfare. As a taxpayer, I say fuck that.
Muthafukajones · 46-50, M
The woman has the choice not to have a child with a man who isn’t committed to her. @spjennifer
@Muthafukajones That happens before sex, so a man also has the choice to not sleep with a woman whose potential child he doesn't want to be responsible for.
Muthafukajones · 46-50, M
Why are you so adamant about this? It’s obvious that the woman has far more control than the male at every step. Why do we not hold women accountable for their greater ability to prevent and end pregnancy and to raise or not raise the children they choose to have. @LeopoldBloom
@Muthafukajones Because it's a trade-off. In return for never having to be pregnant, men lose control of the process earlier. That's biological, not legal.

Otherwise, if your position is that non-custodial parents of either gender should be able to sign away their rights and evade child support, just say so. But as a taxpayer, I don't feel as if I should have to shoulder the financial burden of people who want the legal right to abandon their children.
Muthafukajones · 46-50, M
@LeopoldBloom I’ve never bought the argument that if you don’t want children don’t have sex. Humans... men and women want sex without consequence. Everyone benefits when sex is had safely and healthy and frequently with partners as few or many as one chooses. Having children should be a choice. I’m counting on biological drive overriding selfish concern. If the concern to not have a child overrides the biological need to care for one... maybe that person is better off relived of the obligation to have or worse care for an unwanted child... or partner.
@Muthafukajones I haven't bought that argument either. But there are consequences to having sex. For the woman, it's either childbirth or abortion. For the man, it's putting up with what the woman chooses.

Again, biology dictates that men lose control of the process earlier than women. No law can change that, unless we develop technology that allows men to get pregnant or fetuses to be gestated in artificial wombs. But until then, the [b]non-custodial parent regardless of gender[/b] has to pay child support.

I don't see any benefit to society for allowing people to evade child support and shift that burden onto the taxpayer. If we're going to do that, then society has the right to exert more control, such as requiring couples who have sex to enter into a permanent commitment, and obtain a license before they have children. That way, only couples who agreed to be responsible for their offspring would be allowed to have any.
Carazaa · F
@Muthafukajones So to you, it's ok to walk away from a child and not care for that child because we change our mind, or don't want the child, or don't want to feed the child? So it's not about the welfare of the child?
Muthafukajones · 46-50, M
@Carazaa I think it’s ok to walk away from a woman you don’t want to share a child or a life with especially if she wants to have a child you don’t want anything to do with.
Carazaa · F
@Muthafukajones It is your child, whether you like the woman or not, you are the Father. The child needs food, and love from his Dad. Under the present laws in most countries I think it is responsibility of both parents, regardless of the relationship with the mother. But under God, [b]you[/b] are 100% responsible to feed your child until grown, and emotionally nurture and be a father for the child for his entire life. God makes it clear that it is the [i]Fathers[/i] job to take care of his household, and not let anyone go hungry. So you have to take that up with God.
Carazaa · F
@Muthafukajones You can think whatever you want to think, but here is what God thinks of such a person [b]"Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever." 1 Tim 5:8[/b]