Women have all the control when it comes to becoming a parent. Should men have the right to opt out of parental responsibility?
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BlueVeins · 22-25
I don't see how that can be done short of
a) denying a woman her right to her body or
b) canceling child support payments
I respect your intelligence enough to assume you don't support option A. Option B is shitty because child support payments are an obligation to the child, not the remaining parent. Imagine being a kid who was born of a failed relationship and then just not having the resources you need because your mom didn't feel like putting you up for adoption (not that that option's perfect) and your dad didn't wanna put his money up.
It isn't fair to the man, but there's really no fair way to manage this situation so I say we just put the unfair financial burden on the one who's next most able to handle it.
a) denying a woman her right to her body or
b) canceling child support payments
I respect your intelligence enough to assume you don't support option A. Option B is shitty because child support payments are an obligation to the child, not the remaining parent. Imagine being a kid who was born of a failed relationship and then just not having the resources you need because your mom didn't feel like putting you up for adoption (not that that option's perfect) and your dad didn't wanna put his money up.
It isn't fair to the man, but there's really no fair way to manage this situation so I say we just put the unfair financial burden on the one who's next most able to handle it.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BlueVeins Well I ran into a man that was paying for child support for a kid that wasn't his, he was involved with their lives but then something happened and he left, the court though considers that to be basically parenting so it's a loophole.
And then there's some other instances where the man is paying child support for a kid that turns out wasn't even his own, by the time he finds out he's been had, he's in the system so good luck stopping payments.
I think that's what is meant by the issue of child support. Societies logic though doesn't see things in this way, they see that "it's a kid" and so somebody needs to pay for it if the mother can't.
So I think that's where the issue is and it's sad the child suffers but I think it's wrong that someone else equally suffers over a kid that isn't even their own given how much child support actually is in reality.
You're working to pay for some stranger which is basically slavery.
And then there's some other instances where the man is paying child support for a kid that turns out wasn't even his own, by the time he finds out he's been had, he's in the system so good luck stopping payments.
I think that's what is meant by the issue of child support. Societies logic though doesn't see things in this way, they see that "it's a kid" and so somebody needs to pay for it if the mother can't.
So I think that's where the issue is and it's sad the child suffers but I think it's wrong that someone else equally suffers over a kid that isn't even their own given how much child support actually is in reality.
You're working to pay for some stranger which is basically slavery.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BlueVeins Also some women only have children for money, some families only adopt children because there's incentives also. Of course you can't prove this but it does happen, I don't know a whole lot of women but I've known at least 3 in my adult living I've met that have publicly made it known they have kids for cash.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@SatanBurger If it's proven through a paternity test that the child isn't his and he hasn't legally adopted the child then no, he shouldn't be held responsible, the birth Father should. One of the States I lived in, the woman got a certain amount of welfare for 2 kids and it almost doubled for having 3 so some women did exactly that and no, that isn't fair to either the Father or the taxpayers and that's the fault of the lawmakers, not the children...
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@spjennifer Agreed.