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Women have all the control when it comes to becoming a parent. Should men have the right to opt out of parental responsibility?

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Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
Well.. a) women do not have all the control, they might have been raped, have an abusive partner they don't want to have kids with, they may not want kids but be in a relationship where the pregnancy happened despite precautions (the contraceptive pill isn't 100% effective and condoms definitely aren't!), they may have been pressured into getting pregnant.. coerced... a million and one reasons..

And b) as to dads.. well many of them can and DO opt out - they just up and leave.. women can up and leave too but mostly they don't.. and it's much harder for them to do so

However, at the end of the day, if two people make a baby planned or not, then technically both have a lifelong obligation.. In reality that doesn't always transpire
@Adaydreambeliever

Well i guess that is a broad generalization. I was thinking about the legal right of an abortion in most places in developed countries.
External pressure from family or partners notwithstanding.

I know men [i]can[/i] leave but should it be the same legal thing as an abortion?
@Adaydreambeliever I will not let them get away with believing I want children even if it cost me the lay in the first place.

Better to just not get laid than be stuck with a lifetime of obligation for it and to someone I didnt choose the way I did her.

the act has its appeals but is mostly for emotional bonding, I do not want kids and Im sick to death of people acting as though sex is either for pleasure and sinful and wrong for it or for childbirth and a virtue.

Sometimes its for NEITHER and still a virtue.

her orgasm releases Oxytocin which is what I WANT.

Fuck societys little attempt to trap me into a box on this one.
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@Pikachu I think the problem is... that we are in danger here for forgetting that abortion is not a simple or easy answer! It IS a medical procedure and there ARE risks, including sterility as in not being able to have kids later if one chooses.. We need to remember when talking about abortion it's not an easy option either physically OR mentally.. it leaves massive and sometimes unhealable scars - mentally and physically!

And as you rightly said.. we must NOT discount the many pressures on women not to have an abortion, from the man, their peers, their religion, their community, their finances, their own belief, and of course their family... sometimes effectively there is no real choice..