UK Chancellor live now 'Furlough scheme to end'

@deeply I wouldn't waste another penny throwing it at employers who are taking advantage of government loans and tax payment 'holidays'.
Employers have shown they'll take the governments money but employees can join the dole queue and maybe the company will hire them back IF this mess ever gets anywhere near 'normal' again.

Gotta shut the country down if you're serious about containing the virus and ensuring it doesn't go anywhere.

@Picklebobble2 OK so imagine the country being shut down entirely, and to guarantee it works we stay shut down for 90 days (three months) how do we survive those three months?

@deeply The government has to pay everybody the same as unemployment rate.
Landlords have to be told there'll be no payments from their tenants.
Councils have to be told there'll be no payments for council tax.
Banks have to be told folk won't be paying their loans or other bits....

@Picklebobble2 OK let's assume nothing has to be paid for and everything is free and no one is going to work NO ONE! So what do we eat? And drink? And where is our waste disposed of?

@deeply What am i a government accountant ?
THIS IS A CRISIS. We have to respond in kind !
If companies want to lay folk off, why is that the employees problem ?

@Picklebobble2 ah so no you see the impossibility of shutting a country down!
The lack of work isn't the employers fault so why should they carry on paying for people to sit at home?
And neither is it the employees fault, but we all have to face reality.
Had all the "employees" not gone on holiday to foreign countries or coastal areas we probably wouldn't be in a second almost lock down just yet. And they'd be in a better position to get through the first few weeks of
Universal credit.

@deeply That's all a bit 'shutting the stable door after the Horse has bolted' though isn't it.
You have to deal with the here and now.

And given that the government chose to sit on it's backside during the summer 'watching' what was going on.
Given that the government has spent the last six months looking for a 'model' to base it's response on.
Given that EVERY measure they've employed has failed to halt either the economic slide or the increased virus numbers.
Given that even TODAY they STILL haven't solved the mess of the Universal Credit application and implementation process.

What options do people have ?

@Picklebobble2 just because the government are stupid doesn't mean the people have to be.
There is still no shortage of work, all the companies that are still running are short of workers because some of their staff are self isolating or staying out on furlogh, it is becoming a problem for many companies.

It's nothing like "shutting the stable door....." the virus was here in December of last year, the risks were obvious to all by May, yet people still got on planes for the express purpose catching covid and bringing it back here, they didn't need a holiday they'd been sitting at home doing nothing but buying toilet paper for 6 weeks!

@deeply But most of us didn't fly anywhere. Most of us aren't people who flew into and out of Wuhan in China. Identified as THE hotspot for the outbreak.
Most of us have adhered to the 'rules' the government told us to follow. Not matter how bloody silly they are !
eg: Don't meet up with your neighbours but go to restaurants etc.
Most of us were doing our jobs diligently and responsibly.
Most of us were and are law abiding.

What more do you want people to do ?
At what point do you hold government responsible for it's failures ?
At what point do you jail the morons having parties and such ?
How many Teachers or kids is it acceptable to lose IF the guidelines on the kids return to school fails ?

@Picklebobble2 here's what I want people to do, follow the rules that will slow the spread and ignore the allowances that are made in a desperate attempt to boost the economy the difference between the two is blindingly obvious, unfortunately some people are selfish.
It's no good blaming the government, they set nothing more than a limit, we don't need to take everything to their limit, we can set our own.