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So the good and faithful servant was given money and he went out and made more money with it. The second faithful servant was given money and he went out and made money with it. The third unfaithful servant buried the money he was given and did nothing with it. He was rebuked for not even putting it in the bank so he could earn interest with it. Jesus was sounding pretty capitalist to my mind.
Matthew 25:14-30
Jesus was not a socialist.
Matthew 25:14-30
Jesus was not a socialist.
@hippyjoe1955 Wow so you really don't understand the parable of the talents at all... Are you sure you're a Christian?
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Qwerty14 A parable is a truth used to illuminate other truths. I suspect you think they are allegories.
@hippyjoe1955 People are pretty unanimous about what this parable is about. It has nothing to do with literal wealth. If you think that then you really dont understand the word of God at all...
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Qwerty14 Yes. All the Christians know that it is a truth explaining a deeper truth. Individual initiative is rewarded.
@hippyjoe1955 That isn't what it's about at all. It has nothing to do with the material world or the possession of wealth. If you got that from it you didn't look further than the words on the page.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Qwerty14 Where did you get that silly idea from? The idea is you do the best with what YOU have been given. You don't rob someone else (like socialists do). You don't blame someone else (like socialists do). YOU take the initiative and make the best life you can possibly make using the gifts and talents that you have been given. Obviously you wasted your talent by getting an economics degree but you can fix that.
@hippyjoe1955 Your gift is to be an ass right? A good use of your skills lol but again the parable refers to the disciples and Jesus. Not to your backwards idea of capitalism
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Qwerty14 The parable applies to life. All human life not just the few disciples. Too Funny!!!
@hippyjoe1955 Yeah considering you only really found god late in your life I don't think you have the grounds to try preach your backwards idea of Christ to fit your personal bias. You know who else uses the Parable of the Talents for capitalist gains? Televangelists. They con people out of their hard earned money saying Jesus wants you to do it. They're con men and you're pedaling their bs right now. Jesus did not care for commerce and he didn't care for personal wealth. Blessed are the poor, Blessed are the meek, blessed are those who hunger.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Qwerty14 So God revealing Himself to me when I was 25 means I was a late bloomer? Despite the fact that that was 40 years ago and in the mean time I went to seminary and taught at seminary and preach in churches on a regular basis? Too Funny. Son I have a been a Christian longer than you have been alive. I wasn't indoctrinated in the socialist faith disguised as Christianity as a kid. I was a proud atheist.
@hippyjoe1955 Yeah and you never shed that close-mindedness that comes with atheism. I feel sorry for you
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Qwerty14 Yawn. So you think you know anything about Christianity? Seriously? After you told me you wasted your time on an economics indoctrination degree. Too Funny. I was asked to give a series of 18 lectures on the the Gospel of Matthew while at seminary. I agreed and was completely shocked when it turned out that my entire class was made up of the seminary professors. I bravely struggled on calling my students by their title of Dr. Strange thing happened. After every lecture I gave one or more of the professors would come to me and tell me that they learned something from my lecture and would be applying it to their life and teachings.
@hippyjoe1955 You seem awfully fixated on the fact that I have a degree. Do you suffer some inadequacy issues? Lol
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Qwerty14 You brought it up as though it has significance. I am having great fun laughing at your educated ignorance.
@hippyjoe1955 Yeah that was on a different thread where we were talking about economics. It's irrelevant here. The fact you keep circling back to it makes me think you are a little green. Maybe you live with some regrets you needa come to terms with?
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Qwerty14 If you are that ignorant about a field you profess to have expertise in what does that say about the rest of your opinions.
@hippyjoe1955 Again you circle back to it. Does it really make you feel lesser that much? It's just a degree. Lots of people have em.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Qwerty14 Well it is obvious to one and all that you have no understanding of Christianity and think that it supports socialism in accordance to your economic degree/indoctrination. The parable that Jesus gave applies to you too. Drop your socialism and get to work. Become the best man you can become. Don't try to run other people's lives. Don't try to impose your silly idea of an economy on humanity. You aren't smart enough to do it.
@hippyjoe1955 It makes me laugh that you keep bringing up indoctrination considering you've been brainwashed your whole life by the US government to hate socialism. The bad Russians. Who btw were Stalinist then Trotskyist, not socialist. But you can't even see the difference because you've been so indoctrinated into the US propaganda machine. Am I wrong?
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Qwerty14 If you think my faith is based on any indoctrination you would be dead wrong. I was a proud atheist until I began to doubt evolution. Then one warm summer evening I was walking across some virgin Canadian short grass prairie. No one was near me. I hadn't talked to anyone in hours. As the sun neared the horizon I spotted a small white rock standing just above the prairie wool. I have no idea why but I felt the need to kneel there and in the following few minutes Jesus became more real to me than the rock I was kneeling beside. I started my walk a confused atheist. I concluded my walk a confirmed Christian. I went to a local Christian church a few days later and spoke to an elderly pastor. He explained I had been born again. He then took me down to the local river and baptized me in the Name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. About a year later I was sitting in church waiting for the service to begin and I was looking at the cross on the wall behind the pulpit. Suddenly there appeared a luminescence that seemed to be pouring down from the cross. It walled up along the dais then like a dam broke it poured out over the congregation. It was truly awe inspiring. I had no idea what I had witnessed until a few months later I read an article about the Shekinah Glory. My walk in Christianity has been one of revelation preceding education.