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Americans Overwhelmingly Oppose Defunding the Police

We've also learned that 'Defunding the Police' means;
'Defunding the Police'. Initially, leftists led by BLM and antifa tried walking back the ridiculous concept saying stuff like 'We want to redirect funds from policing to other community resources like social workers.' Which of course is the same thing as 'Defunding the Police'.

Later it was discovered in the New York Times that 'Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish The Police', according to the author of the leftist policy, Mariame Kaba, a Soros alumnae.

Meanwhile, a list of demands have been written by the rioters. And, leftist leadership are actually considering negotiating with the terrorists holding Seattle hostage.

And, as one might expect, since the terrorists are being tolerated in Seattle, riots are exploding in other parts of the country. I suspect we'll see more capitulation by local democrats, more sections of cities taken over by terrorists, more sudden resignations of police and police chiefs, and more demands made by terrorists.

This no longer about George Whatshisname. It's about dismantling law and order, erasing America.

It's yet another unprecedented challenge for American people, for national leadership to unravel, repair. It becomes crystal clear that no one on the left is capable or even willing to take on the challenge, Thus far, their response is to negotiate surrender which is not an option.

President Trump is the ONLY one with the courage and stamina to take on this problem, to restore law and order and get back to the business of Making America Even Greater.

I look forward to hearing what you have to say.
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I actually don't know of anyone in my circle who advocates eliminating the police. The alternative would be people policing their own lives and communities, and that would probably not end well... though some libertarian types would likely embrace the idea. Especially in rural areas where it could actually happen.

I don't think there's anyone in my circle who disagrees with the assessment that the police have, in many instances, become overly authoritarian and militarized. And that's not a statement that looters shouldn't be dealt with. When I came up they were shot on sight. And that violent civil disobedience shouldn't be dealt with as criminal activity. By that I mean I've been unjustly searched and held by police. Not a big deal in some sense in that I'm law abiding. A big deal in that I know somebody is getting over on me, and basically just my time and self respect is being squandered.

Also, it seems re-purposing police for social tasks in the community is probably a reasonable idea. One example. There was a death threat at my place of employment. It was not an active threat. It was anonymous. Students do this. When the officer came out to take a report, and that's all there was to do, take a report, I found out that this is what he does all day. Document employee threats. All day, every day. WTF. Yea. Something of a social worker would be a good idea.

Another example is when I found my late wife dead at home. I'm not sure there really needed to be four officers pouring over my property. I suppose there is the possibility of a homicide. But mostly it was hours and hours of documenting domestic details, medical history, getting an inventory of her massive amount of medications together. Being a liaison with her primary, with the funeral home. Real social work. She was a remarkable woman, a real angel, so it went as well as it could. Real grace. A different person would have made it horrible.

A friend of mine from my faith community was a former police officer. She quit after some 10-15 years in service after killing her second person in a domestic violence call. People in our circle misunderstood her. They thought she quit because of the two kills in duty, both of which were ruled clear and good in all ways. Both DV calls. She quit because she felt the job was making her cynical about humanity. She told me one day how every day you are meeting people in the worst situations, somethings the worst of their lives, and everyone is lying to you. Even the "good guys". Everyone is trying to get over on you.

She felt she was getting really dark. And she felt there was no respite. She said she would have been fine with DV calls and domestic disturbance calls all day every day if there was regular time to back away from it and do something constructive. She called it "social work" and that was like 15 years ago. To be able to be in uniform and be in the community but not on the defense or being reactive to a situation. Working with youth, DV victims, whatever. She said it would have helped her cynicism and jadedness, and if she could have done that every so often, she could have stayed in service indefinitely.
snowbelt · 61-69, M
@CopperCicada Bless you for this insightful perspective.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@CopperCicada [quote], it seems re-purposing police for social tasks in the community is probably a reasonable idea. On[/quote]

IN Akron, OH, they want the police to stand at stop signs and hand out candy to people wearing seat belts and dum-dum suckers to those that are not. That is NOT a good use of tax dollars. Get the mayor and councilmen to make fools of themselves.

Initial response to a death in the home - you said yourself, there are sometimes homicides. Once it's determined to be tragic / innocent death - THEN bring in your social workers.

Your domestic violence story sounds like a police officer that discovered she wasn't cut out for the job. If you can find social workers willing to respond to domestic violence calls - go ahead, give it a try. I bet they don't last the 10-15 years the friend 'in your circle' lasted.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Budwick Student leaders handed out Smarties & Dum Dums 20 years ago here at a Main Street through campus. Police had nothing to do with.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@cherokeepatti That's nice.
IN Akron, OH the police are doing it now.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Budwick I believe a student was killed in an accident & she wasn’t wearing her self belt so a group on campus bought the candies & handed them out one afternoon. There are about 4 different stop lights in a 6 block area near the dorms.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@cherokeepatti I think the student program is fine!

i DO NOT THINK it's a good idea to have police doing it.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Budwick they have better things to take care. Not enough to spread around as it is. A retired police officer told me they put most of them in the day shift for optics when they need a lot more at night. And then I told him I had to wait for 2 hours on a Sunday afternoon after a woman ran her truck into a van that I was driving. (Someone was shot to death about a mile from that same location about an hour ago)
Budwick · 70-79, M
@cherokeepatti Exactly!