Why are these top countries happier than the USA?

@Roadsterrider yes I agree with that!

@Roadsterrider If you make a lot of money, the US is very nice.

@LeopoldBloom yes it’s is but the work is priority not family and enjoying life I see people tired and overworked! Some can’t enjoy their wealth!

@LeopoldBloom Basically. It works poorly for about 80%, well for 19, and fantastically for 1.

Like the engineer from Norway - I can move and work just about anywhere, but I make way more money in the US to the point where moving is a big enough hit to give me pause - and after all I’m well insulated from the downsides of American life.

But I’m guessing that engineer will work here for a decade or two and go back. And I will likely be raising my kids in Australia.

@QuixoticSoul Australia? Why?

@Carazaa Mostly, because unlike my own small family that’s split across four continents, my wife’s is large and concentrated. Can’t pass up that free family childcare.

But the general sanity doesn’t hurt things either. That’s a 5 year plan though.

@QuixoticSoul
Many people are leaving the USA under this current government!

@Carazaa I don’t really care about this administration or the next, my plans are not related to any of that - and nothing the potus ever does touches people like me anyway.

@LeopoldBloom What do you consider "a lot of money"? I work as a mechanic in aviation, my wife is a nurse. We have both been in our chosen professions for over 30 years. We both make decent money but are not rich by any stretch of the imagination. Solid middle class folks. My middle class financial situation allows me to live a pretty good life here. Your arguments remind me of my brother, he always acted like I should be ashamed that I had money to put into a retirement plan. He had a problem with anyone who achieved greater success than he did. He was a fan of BUI, "a man shouldn't have to kill himself for enough money to get by."

@QuixoticSoul I hope everyone who hates Trump leaves the country, if that happened we could get rid of the Pelosi's and Schiff's and Schumer's that are obstructing the president. They would all be replaced by moderates and conservatives. Life would be better.

@Roadsterrider so it’s Trump against the country? Why can’t we all work on caring for people!!

@Carazaa I don't see it as Trump against the country, I see it as conservatives against liberals. The big difference between the two is spending and regulation. Conservatives want less spending and less government interference and liberals want more spending and more government interference. The president can say no to just about anything, he really can't do much without congress and the senate. And if he does say no to something, a veto, congress and the senate can go around him if they really wanted to pass something. Reagan, Bush1 and Bush2, Clinton, Obama, Trump, none of these men are going to cause the end of the world. The puppet masters are all the career politicians in the house and senate. They make the backroom deals with Pharma, Exxon/BP and all the other campaign contributors. If the president disappeared today, the only thing that would happen is the political players would find someone else to hate. In my opinion, Trump's real problem with the haters is that he actually says what he is thinking. He isn't a career politician.

@Roadsterrider Nah, that retard needs to be kept in check, Pelosi (who, btw, is a moderate) etc are doing their jobs.

Also, more generally, 🙄

@QuixoticSoul Pelosi may have started out moderate but she is left of the left now. She is about as moderate as Stalin.

@Roadsterrider
USA has big big problems that the top 10 countries have solved so the USA need to learn from these countries!
They have more freedom because their countries governments are much more efficient and they never talk crap about another politician like Americans because they care about working together to solve the problems and they are ALL solved! So people are happy!

@Roadsterrider
[quote]Pelosi may have started out moderate but she is left of the left now. She is about as moderate as Stalin[/quote]

@Roadsterrider Lmao I am starting to think that you don't know much about Pelosi or Stalin. Left of the left 😂😂😂

Perspective mate, recover some of yours.

@QuixoticSoul Pelosi showed exactly what she believed and where her stance is when she tore up the state of the union address on national TV. My perspective is pretty clear.

@Roadsterrider That... has no bearing whatsoever on whether she is a leftist or not. Your perspective is severely lacking.

@QuixoticSoul That act was a clear indication that she isn't willing to work with the president who is conservative, making her position the opposite of conservative. She has spent the last three years trying to undo every conservative issue the president has brought up. That pretty much confirms a liberal slant to every thing she says or does.

@Roadsterrider Is the US president willing to work with Congress? That knife cuts both ways you know. You can't really paint the democratic party as "Un-American" the enemy of the people, and still ask them to cheer you on when you keep a speech.

@Roadsterrider This just makes me think you have no idea what terms like conservative, liberal, left, etc even mean 🤷‍♂️

This is hilariously goofy reasoning. You need to revisit the fundamentals.

@QuixoticSoul Not to mention that the entire speech he gave in 2020 was full of remarks at the expense of the democractic party which held the president for 8 years. And some of those remarks are just blatanly false:

[quote]In eight years under the last administration, over 300,000 working-age people dropped out of the work force. In just three years of my administration, 3.5 million people — working-age people — have joined the work force.

- Trump, 2020 state of the union[/quote]

How can anny democrat cheer for something like this, when Obama got his presidency during a depression... and at the end of 8 years the workforce grew by 5,4 milion.

[b][u]source:[/u][/b]
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/factchecking-the-state-of-the-union-3/
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11000000



It's the same thing as inauguration speech:

[quote] too long a small group in our nation’s capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost.

Washington flourished but the people did not share in its wealth. Politicians prospered but the jobs left and the factories closed.

The establishment protected itself but not the citizens of our country.

Their victories have not been your victories. Their triumphs have not been your triumphs. While they have celebrated there has been little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land.[/quote]

While Obama was sitting right behind him...


You can't really expect unconditional love from someone that is continuously being asshole towards you.

@QuixoticSoul Can you define what makes Pelosi a moderate? That would work better on my perspective than just telling me why I am wrong and making veiled insults about my level of understanding. What is Pelosi's stance on abortion, on 2nd amendment rights, freedom of worship, everything I can find makes her a died in the wool lib. Only one step away from socialist.

@Roadsterrider You're wrong because you're lacking context. Every party has a spectrum.

Moderate republicans tend to support abortion rights (as do basically all sane people the world over), lgbt rights, and some gun control measures. Does this make them left of the left?

Left of the dem wing wants unrestricted immigration, single-payer health care, policies like green new deal, etc. Is Pelosi left of them?

Basically nobody in congress is against freedom of worship.

Tearing up the SOTU address has nothing to do with policy positions in the first place, that was a ridiculous example to use.