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Would you switch?

Imagine we had private firms provide security rather than police. No firm could do what they did to George Floyd because millions would have switched provider in protest.
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TinyViolins · 31-35, M
Private prisons turned out to be a disaster, so privatizing even more of the legal system sounds like it will continue to incentivize a lot more lobbying for shady laws and practices in order to legitimize their existence.
MrMonnyPenny · 22-25, M
How did that work? Did the government choose who got the contract? That’s not opening up a market and competition that’s granting a monopoly to a favoured company.

The scenario I described wasn’t that the government chooses a company to provide security and pays them in taxes but that the people pay and choose directly.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@MrMonnyPenny But that's the problem of paying for public services. Think about it, what public services are actually paid for by individuals directly? None, really. Nobody wants to foot the bill on something they don't think they'll need or use
MrMonnyPenny · 22-25, M
@TinyViolins that’s the tragedy of the commons, if all public land was under private ownership than there’d always be someone with a financial stake over the Security of what they own.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@MrMonnyPenny But always people willing to push the burden onto someone else
MrMonnyPenny · 22-25, M
@TinyViolins I think the government is more the mechanism that is used to push the burden onto other people not than the market.

Under the market you either pay your own way or you don’t receive the good/service
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@MrMonnyPenny The market is designed to only pursue profit. It doesn't necessarily concern itself with public welfare. That's why private prisons keep people incarcerated over BS. They wouldn't make a profit otherwise
MrMonnyPenny · 22-25, M
@TinyViolins Private Prisons aren’t part of a holistic free market law and order system. Free market provision of law and order may not even have wide use for prisons. The law may be to pay restitutions for crimes rather than serve a prison sentence.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@MrMonnyPenny Free markets don't exist though. I am a huge fan of restorative justice and for keeping as many people out of prison as is necessary for relatively minor crimes, but I don't see how a private police force can do any better a job of that than a public one that is properly trained