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Considering The Coronavirus .....

How do you feel about open borders now?
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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
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Budwick · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 The smartest thing you said today!
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Budwick Except for certain territories (like EU or the United States) you have no free borders between the states that aren't part of the construction. States in the US don't enforce their borders neither does the EU. And still the Corona virus spreads, even if we have no free borders between loads of countries that are affected?

How much qurantine are you advocating for, if you want to keep a virus from spreading to other nations? And are you okay with people from the nation mingling together in social activity even though other virusses (like the flu) have a high deadtoll every year? Or is just better to get a virus from someone in your own country? How fucked up is this argument Budwick, please elaborate? 🤦‍♂️
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 Ah, we should join the nations of the western hemisphere as member states under one flag, eh?
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 🤦‍♂️
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 Your arguments are usually totally fucked up.

Reducing the risk of the virus crossing the border is the point of the question.

It's true that anyone crossing our borders will not affect the EU - though I would have thought THAT was self evident.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Budwick Are you advocatting we should build a wall on every border? So that nothing and no one will cross? Has that become the American way now? To save ourselves?
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 No.
Read the fucking question!
[quote]Considering The Coronavirus .....
How do you feel about open borders now?
[/quote]

There's no advocating for anything.
It's a simple question.
You can answer it if you want.
You can bypass it, if that makes you feel better.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Budwick I think open borders are a bad plan Budwick. I think if you would apply the idea right now that it would be self destructive.

But I would never make that assumption because of a disease Budwick, that's like pretty monty python stuff honestly.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 So, open borders are not a good idea.
But, helping prevent the spread of disease is not a factor - in your mind.

IS that right?
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Budwick
I'm against open borders
I'm pro helping to prevent spread the disease.

That's right.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 So just how you gonna do dat?
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 How am I going to do what sporter?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 Separate the wheat from the chaff
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 Do you believe you should have a permanent border policy that keeps virusses from spreading sporter?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 A usual, you have crickets
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 No Sporter... I'm asking you the same question you are asking me. I'll answer the question if you have difficulties answering it.

I'm against open borders
I'm pro helping to prevent spread the disease.
I don't believe we should have a permanent border policy that keeps virusses from spreading by entering the country.

Because making policy on the basis of that fear... is fucking insane if you start thinking on the logistics? Trade? People that go away for all kinds of reasons. It's so absurd that it can make it into a Monty Python sketch.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 It would surprise you to know that the laws and policies are already on the books, but the goddamndemocrats think it is cute to disobey federal law, hence their opposition to anything resembling sealing the borders with the exception of controlled entrance points
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 And when the thread is gone? You are permanently going to screen everyone comming from everywhere? Like permanent quarantines? Scanning the food that get brought in? ... How far are we going to go for a permanent protection program against virusses?
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 The threat is never gone.
Checking in every entrant to the USA is what we're SUPPOSED to be doing now!
We DO check all the food coming in.

How far do you [i]think [/i]we should go to protect ourselves from outside threats? I'm thinking, as far as necessary.

Sure as shit, we get 3 - 4 people die in a week from something, people will panic - and cry "WHY DIDN'T YOU PROTECT ME?"
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Budwick Budwick, wtf man. Are you advocating for a form of National-Mysophobia? Do you know how insane that is?

I don't get your picture. Isn't your side being the guy in the picture in this conversation?


Btw... For both of you @Budwick @sunsporter1649

Considering The Coronavirus .....
How do you feel about non-open borders now?
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 Not irrational fear Sparky.
Concerned respect.
Check out what happened in 1918 - look at how the government relaxed to 'prevent panic'.
At the moment, things are under control in the USA.
Just want to keep it that way is all.

Personally, I never liked open borders before and I don't now.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Budwick We aren't talking about emergency open borders right? We are talking about a permanent policy? So I'm asking you if you are in a favor of like having a permanent policy that keeps all viruses out? Like how far are you willing to go? We have measures now, there are borders, there are inspections... and yet the virus has spread. So how far do you permanently need to keep similair things from happening in the future?
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 When viruses are hot - personally, I'd close the borders.
Like, you can't fly in from China right now.
It won't be that way forever.

Measures, borders, inspections have been half hearted at best.
We THINK we've detected everyone infected that entered USA because we HAVE paid better attention.

If you are suggesting that we shouldn't do anything cuz what they've done hasn't prevented s[read - I think that's crazy.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Budwick Isn't that what we are doing right here?

And yes... I think that would be crazy too. 🤷‍♂️
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 [quote]Isn't that what we are doing right here? [/quote]

Sorry - so many actions proposed, I don't know which you are referring to.