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I'm so fed up with the Toires after 10 years in power and some of them are moaning that things havent been done.............. well who's to blame, you guys have been the government for 10 years and you havent done anything to sort out any of the problems.

So my question is if you were PM what would you do to make the UK better or change any poliy lie zero hour contracts!!!

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ArthurP · 80-89, M

It's arguable that all Britsh governments since the Thatcher years have achieved very little in their time in office, at best being reactive to situations rather than proactive. And almost invariably, where action has been taken, the law of unintended consequences has kicked in.

But these responses remind me of that glorious line about "What a shame that everyone who really knows how to run the country are working as hairdressers and taxi drivers"

No reflection on hairdressers and taxi drivers - it applies to most of us. Why don't politicians do what we see as the bleeding' obvious.

But comments here all believe in the magic money tree. And considering the UK national debt is 1.8 TRILLION pounds, and after 10 years of so-called austerity, the annual defat in 2019 was still near 26 billion pounds, sorry guys, you are even now vastly living beyond your means.

So, no, forcing employers to up wages is a pure prescription for bankruptcy without at least the equivalent increase in productivity. Increase minimum wages causes loss of jobs.

The NHS is struggling because of sclerotic management and the ludicrous idea that all services should be free at point of use. Even a token 5 quid per GP visit would halve the demand, probably even more. Free prescriptions to all pensioners? Rubbish when a huge proportion of British retirees are sitting on very comfortable income and assets.

And as for emotional crap like "nutritional starvation". Please.

Find the magic money tree, and suddenly we will all have utopia. Until them we have to put up with politicians who, when faced with the cruel realities of the world, talk big, and deliver small.

milkymum1 · 31-35, F

@ArthurP That's so well put, one thing I can never ever understand that under austerity the national debt has gone up, why, how, where's the money gone that was saved?????

If the government actually wnated to help the normal people they would have done it decades ago, like stop zero hour contracts, enforce the minumum wage, make the tx system fairer, sort out why we have food banks..... sorry the list goes on and on

The NHS has been run down diliberatly to sell it off so it goes full private as its the last real thing the tories can sell off!!!!

I'm all for paying for an appiontment as that might stop people wastung a lot of GP appiontments.

As for prescrirtpoions maybe they should only be free if the person is long term sick, like cancer, kidney transpalnt , the major illnesses.

As for the majic money tree TM shook it very well and BJ has turned it into a magic money forest!!!!

Platinum · M

@ArthurP no one is going to get what they want from any government...all you can do is see what is happening in your own life...you are right that they don't care about the ordinary person...I'm not any worse of than I was ten years ago and I'm hoping things will get better under bojo. ....I don't think brexit will change us much...I'm certain we won't notice much difference

Platinum · M

@milkymum1 the national debt always goes up....you never see any of the money they save....governments always want to keep us down....are you worse off than you were ten years ago....even with austerity I've not noticed any difference, except I'm better off...employment has risen and wages have risen...if you shop carefully you can save a lot of money...

ArthurP · 80-89, M

Just to answer one of your technical questions, even if there had been REAL austerity (my first memories are of my parents struggling with post war austerity - everything rationed, icy winters without coal and many power failures, few private cars, two radio programmes and -in my case - primary school classes of 48,!!!!) the reason national debt has risen inexorably during "austerity" is that it is cumulative. So even if you have a one pound annual deficit (dream on!!!) then your national debt still increases by one pound. So despite the government doing some quite effective work bringing down the annual deficit, the national debt has risen every year.

@ArthurP

Platinum · M

The national debt rises every year in every country, it's normal...and not a problem as long as you have the ability to repay the loan....austerity after the war was not as bad as you made it sound...people are softer now, we got enough food and we found ways to keep warm....after six years of war, anything felt better....@ArthurP @ArthurP

Thinkerbell · 41-45, F

@Platinum
[quote]
after six years of war, anything felt better[/quote]

Even Clement Attlee, the "sheep in sheep's clothing." 🤭

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Thinkerbell · 41-45, F

@fairefoutre

Yes, that too... but then, most sheep are modest, except in Wales, of course. 😂

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Thinkerbell · 41-45, F

@fairefoutre

What about Margaret Thatcher, or are you going to go all sexist on me? 🤭

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Thinkerbell · 41-45, F

@fairefoutre

[c=#008099]https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-22068402[/c]

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Platinum · M

You are very clever and witty...@fairefoutre

monkeysdevil007 · 46-50, M

@ArthurP Somebody talking some bloody sense at last 👍️

Thinkerbell · 41-45, F

@fairefoutre

[quote]We call the BBC te Anglosaxophone[/quote]
[i]
There once was a Scot from the hills,
Who derided the BBC shills:
"They're the AULD Anglosaxophone
Whose broadcasting packs a tone
Of fabric from Westminster mills."[/i]

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Thinkerbell · 41-45, F

@fairefoutre

Of course, not bad; that goes without saying. 🤭