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Why not take the High Road?

I'm not alleging who started the tiff between Trump and Pelosi last night, but both are responsible for not respecting the venue of the State of the Union, by not relating or omitting comments that are a part of the formalities; showing disrespect the Speaker of the House by as I've read (didn't see the speech) in news items, turned his back, refused to shake her hand, and then the public ripping up of the speech. Both IMO failed to show and display any decorum for this national event, by their actions. Shameful!
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Northwest · M
Fuck taking the high road. It gets you nowhere, in a “I can shoot someone, in broad daylight, on 5th Ave, and get away with it”, Trump world.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@Northwest because playing his game is going to work so much better.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@JoeyFoxx It worked for him.
Northwest · M
@JoeyFoxx OK, so when he spits on you, you pretend it’s raining? Fuck him
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@Northwest get angry. It’s what the emperor wants
Northwest · M
@JoeyFoxx No, show you're alive. He delivered a piece of fiction, that belongs in a shredder. Protocol only works, if it's observed by by both parties.

At one point, during WWII, the Hitler youth, were trained to fire on a US tank, using a hand-held anti-tank weapon, then immediately step out and rise their hands in surrender. This was a revenge tactic, not something design to win a battle. So, finally, Bradley gave an order: when the guy steps out, you shoot him. It worked.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@Northwest there’s a time and a place.

It looked like a temper tantrum. It was childish and no better than any of the President’s behavior.

If you’re going to be better, BE BETTER.
Northwest · M
@JoeyFoxx [quote]there’s a time and a place.[/quote]

Sure, let's wait until after Trump wins a second term

[quote]BE BETTER.[/quote]

Yeah, be best.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@Northwest no, just saying that during an over produced pseudo state of the union when the only people still watching are Trumpians, that’s just a dumb time to lash out.

Know your audience
Northwest · M
@JoeyFoxx [quote]when the only people still watching are Trumpians, that’s just a dumb time to lash out.

Know your audience[/quote]

The latest Economist/YouGov Poll showed that 61% of Republicans, planned on watching the SOTU address, and about 1/3rd of Democrats/Independents did as well.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@Northwest aren’t you making my point?
Northwest · M
@JoeyFoxx How am I making your point? When you add those who watched, to those who wanted to watch, but could not, you get more than half of the no-Trump camp, interested in the SOTU, and NOT [quote]the only people still watching are Trumpians[/quote]
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@Northwest the audience was a majority Trumpians.

I didn’t literally mean only. That was hyperbolic
Northwest · M
@JoeyFoxx that same poll, showed that about 75% of Republicans either watched , or would have watched, compared to about 50% of non Trumpians.

So what if the majority was Republicans? What difference does that make? Half of the Democrats is still significant.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@Northwest all I’m saying is know your audience.

Her behavior emboldens the Republican base and rallies the Democratic base to throw their arms up in disgust...

... and nothing changes.
Northwest · M
@JoeyFoxx You say it like you believe the Republican base, which is now the Trumpian base, judging by the reaction to the Romney vote, is NOT the same base, that spreads memes of fake picture of Pelosi's head, on top of a woman in a bikini, with fake tits, and claims it's paid for by taxpayers.

As to the Democrats, they're been waiting, since 2008, for someone to stop wiping the spit off their face, and pretend it's raining.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@Northwest Here's the thing, as soon as you characterize an entire group with a single brush stroke, you have lost.

I know plenty of folks who believe firmly in what Trump is doing that would never have any part of those shenanigans.

There are a number of folks who voted for Trump who felt that a Democrat insider like Hillary would be akin to walking around with a mouthful of vomit...... I'm one of them.

I think Trump is an abomination. But I think it's downright laughable that the Democratic party, the party that believes it knows better and represents the rights and freedoms of people everywhere couldn't produce a candidate that could beat someone who couldn't identify the Bill of Rights on a bet.

[quote]Fuck taking the high road.[/quote]

That's your answer? Play his game?

Not even the Republicans can beat him at his game.

I'm not defending him or his defenders. But responding to strength with strength is a Mike Pompeo approach. Y'know, the guy who's skirt got ruffled by an NPR reporter armed with actual facts.

The Democrats control the House and have done nothing with it.

They are only a few seats short of being able to take the Senate, and they'll blow it there too.

So, by all means, lets have public temper tantrums. Let's play Trump's game while complaining about him.

Good plan.

🙄
Northwest · M
@JoeyFoxx I guess you want to keep going through extreme lengths, to twist what I'm saying.

There's a difference between playing "into" someone's bag of dirty tricks, and standing up for yourself. You don't seem to understand the difference.

But now that you said you voted for Trump, because you vomited at the sound of Hillary's name, that explains a lot.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@Northwest what exactly does it explain?

And how have I twisted what you said? You think tearing up a speech on national television is the same as standing up for oneself?
Northwest · M
@JoeyFoxx

[quote]And how have I twisted what you said?[/quote]

Let me count the ways:

[quote]Here's the thing, as soon as you characterize an entire group with a single brush stroke, you have lost.
[/quote]

Not what I'm arguing

[quote]I know plenty of folks who believe firmly in what Trump is doing that would never have any part of those shenanigans.[/quote]

Not what I'm arguing

[quote]I think it's downright laughable that the Democratic party, the party that believes it knows better and represents the rights and freedoms of people everywhere couldn't produce a candidate that could beat someone who couldn't identify the Bill of Rights on a bet.[/quote]

Not what I'm arguing, not to mention how insulting you are to most of the Democratic candidates.

[quote]But responding to strength with strength is a Mike Pompeo approach. Y'know, the guy who's skirt got ruffled by an NPR reporter armed with actual facts.[/quote]

Not what I'm arguing.

[quote]So, by all means, lets have public temper tantrums.[/quote]

Not what I'm arguing, and that's where you really twist what I said, specifically with the temper tantrums reference.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@Northwest Well, I'm out then.

I insulted no Democrats. They lost. The DNC intentionally undermined the only truly viable candidate that could have beaten Trump (yes... I voted for Bernie in the primary).

I never intended to make this an ad hominem attack on you or any of the candidates, but it seems you want to interpret it that way. There's no way that I can twist "fuck taking the high road" into anything other than what you intended.

So, I am gracefully bowing out.

You win.